Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last week’s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    Amazon used an AI-generated image as a cover for 1922’s Nosferatu, and it got publicly torn apart on Twitter:

    On a personal note, it feels to me like any use of AI, regardless of context, is gonna be treated as a public slight against artists, if not art as a concept going forward. Arguably, it already has been treated that way for a while.

    You want me to point to a high-profile example of this kinda thing, I’d say Eagan Tilghman provided a textbook example a year ago, after his Scooby Doo/FNAF fan crossover (a VA redub came out a year later BTW) accidentally ignited a major controversy over AI and nearly got him blacklisted from animation.

    I specifically bring this up because Tilghman wasn’t some random CEO or big-name animator - he was just some random college student making a non-profit passion project with basically zero budget or connections. It speaks volumes about how artists view AI that even someone like him got raked over the coals for using it.

    • @[email protected]
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      ffs it’s in public domain just use a still from the staircase silhouette like everyone else

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      Unfortunately it’s the small artists who are most open and vulnerable to criticism. Amazon can probably impose this kind of shit on everyone through sheer persistence

    • @[email protected]
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      What do they mean by “in color”? If it’s just various tints throughout the film that’s normal and cool. If they mean full on colourised that’s messed up.

  • @[email protected]
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    188 months ago

    Was browsing ebay, looking for some piece of older used consumer electronics. Found a listing where the description text was written like crappy ad copy. Cheap over-the-top praising the thing. But zero words about the condition of the used item, i.e. the actually important part was completely missing. And then at the end of the description it said… this description text was generated by AI.

    AI slop is like mold, it really gets everywhere and ruins everything.

  • Steve
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    179 months ago

    NASB, I had a jarring experience this morning watching Patrick Boyle’s latest video “Big Tech is Going Nuclear!” (not gonna link it) where 5 mins in he introduces the sponsor and it’s an AI presentation slide generator, which he said he used for the images in his video. This after he mentioned the data on generating one image using the same amount of energy as charging a smartphone. The thing is he seems careful to not mention that it is a gen ai product–he never says AI–rather a piece of software that helps making presentations.

    It kinda made me panic stop the video, like an instant “well, done with you” - not sure if he continued to make a joke of it or anything. I mean, I’m sure (I hope) he was given a lot of money for the spot, but damn! Just when I thought I had a foundational understanding of people

    • flavia
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      69 months ago

      And this puts the bit from the other video with the referral links into context. It’s not a joke, he actually expects to be making money off of people :(. I found the vagueness in the ad jarring too. There’s this thing called sponsorblock, a database of timestamps for videos that skips useless stuff. The downside is you don’t find out if the guy that you’re watching is a shill.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      The thing is he seems careful to not mention that it is a gen ai product–he never says AI–rather a piece of software that helps making presentations.

      The term “AI” damages sales when used in advertising - whatever script Boyle got was definitely written by people who knew that fact.

      I also predicted something like this would happen (though within a very specific context) a while ago - seems my prediction’s coming true.

      • Steve
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        69 months ago

        Ok, but are you suggesting he was duped?

        • @[email protected]OP
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          79 months ago

          The guy seems shrewd enough to know publicly supporting anything AI will shred his reputation - I suspect he might have been duped.

          • Steve
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            59 months ago

            sorry if my reply sounded rude. I didn’t mean it to be. I just saw it again and it sounds dismissive.

          • Steve
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            119 months ago

            Yeah, I get what you’re saying but I’d really have to stretch my benefit-of-the-doubt muscles to consider someone who makes such well-researched videos wouldn’t go to the website before he reads the url out on his video and see that on the homepage, above the fold, in big letters, it says “Powered by AI”

            • @[email protected]
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              69 months ago

              maybe reach out and ask? might be interesting to see the answer

              (if you care to, anyway)

              • Steve
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                It’s definitely the prudent option but I’m over mental capacity and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t sharing this just for the upvotes. I couldn’t see any mentions of the sponsor in the comments, so I guess the audience, at least, were duped. I already have a string of unanswered questions on ecosia’s greenwashing social posts, though

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    I wonder if the OpenAI habit of naming their models after the previous ones’ embarrassing failures is meant as an SEO trick. Google “chatgpt strawberry” and the top result is about o1. It may mention the origin of the codename, but ultimately you’re still streered to marketing material.

    Either way, I’m looking forward to their upcoming AI models Malpractice, Forgery, KiddieSmut, ClassAction, SecuritiesFraud and Lemonparty.

    • David GerardM
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      169 months ago

      i used to be the sysadmin for lemonparty

      it was quite a surprise when i found out i can tell you

      • @[email protected]
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        38 months ago

        A couple months ago I lobbied for (and won) my weekly trivia team to use the name “mike’s hard lemonparty”

        Then I learned exactly how old I was

        • David GerardM
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          camping out on a friend’s box, two others had root, but they effectively never bothered. the disk filled one day and i went looking for stuff that wasn’t useful. found that site, found it really was where DNS pointed.

          my current box is the descendant of that one

          • @[email protected]
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            this is what the cloud and its enshittification has taken from us

            shared root on ad-hoc hardware doing fuck knows what (but it’s probably lemonparty)

            • David GerardM
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              69 months ago

              these days lemonparty would be a (ahahahaha) docker image (fnarr etc)

              • @[email protected]
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                did y’all see bash.org looks to maybe finally have died died? there’s an archive up somewhere at least but rip to a bastion

                (this thought comes to mind because I instantly wanted to link “our thoughts go out to the recent victims of internet fraud”…)

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    Two of the major donors pushing to recall the mayor of Oakland, CA are cryptocurrency “executives.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/billionaires-oakland-mayor-sheng-thao-recall

    Over the summer, Jesse Pollak, a cryptocurrency investor and executive at Coinbase, launched Abundant Oakland, an advocacy organization that funds “moderate” candidates running in Oakland races. The organization is explicitly linked to similarly named entities in San Francisco and Santa Monica.

    Abundant Oakland has a related political action committee, Vibrant Oakland, which, campaign filings show, has received donations from Pollak ($115,000), the Oakland police officers association ($50,000), cryptocurrency executive Konstantin Richter ($60,000), the northern California carpenters regional council ($150,000) and a Pac controlled by Piedmont landlord Chris Moore ($100,000).

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    For some reason the previous week’s thread doesn’t show up on the feed for me (and didn’t all week)… nvm, i somehow managed to block froztbyte by accident, no idea how

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    159 months ago

    Bezos’ open interference in the Washington Post’s editorial section has pushed Walter Bright into a very funny series of public admissions that he did not have to make. See the orange site here for his ongoing libertarian meltdown.

    • @[email protected]
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      129 months ago

      Walter Bright soon reading his second ever newspaper: “Wow, this is a lot like Washington Post!”

    • @[email protected]
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      119 months ago

      "I am neither left nor right wing, I am [simply as far right economically as one can be].

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      His comment history is a weird mix of programming language discussion, terrible takes, simping for Musk, simping for Musk even harder (just in case you didn’t realize how much he liked Musk the first time).

      Musk is the sane one. It’s the rest of us that are insane.

      Holy hell.

      • @[email protected]
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        179 months ago

        I don’t think you want to hear my opinions on what the left wing thinks is obvious :-)

        Also, I am neither left nor right wing, as I’m a libertarian. I believe in the principles in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the system of checks and balances set up by the Constitution.

        it’s just really surprising to see the political takes of a 13 year old come out of the 65 year old who created the least successful C variant

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            Walter Bright is a bit of a dick as a maintainer too

            Not a huge schock. But this imho also shows a bit of a problem with these kinds of projects and their ownership. Shit will go bad when the owners grow old and refuse to give up ownership. Walter is 65, you dont expect people to keep up with the cutting edge and wider needs of programmers

          • @[email protected]
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            I’m glad to hear someone’s invested enough to fork it. I like D (hehe) and it would be a shame for it to just languish in Bright daylight.

        • @[email protected]
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          169 months ago

          I am neither left nor right wing, as I’m a libertarian

          Ah, yes, the classic “I’m not like the other girls” of politics.

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          A libertarian who glamorizes the state as set up by old people in the past. The libertarian to reactionary funnel.

          E:

          HN: Since you believe in checks and balances, do you believe Trump should be disqualified for running for office, for using violence, intimidation and lies to attempt to change the results of the last election? As a principled libertarian I’m sure the peaceful transfer of power is at the height of your concerns.

          WalterBright: I think I’ll spare everyone from yet another Trump vs Harris debate.

          Weichei!

          • @[email protected]
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            This is quite cowardly of him to write. He knows it speaks specifically to the question of newspapers giving endorsements. Him answering it truthfully would either undermine the statement that kicked off these comments or reveal that he doesn’t give a fuck about the Constitution.

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              Yes, which is why i called him a softboiled egg in German. Which means something like coward (at least that is what I always learned, google translate gives ‘wimp’). Unless you directly translate it to Dutch then it turns into the Dutch f-slur for gay people. Because we suck.

              This was a random insults in various languages derail.

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        I really hope Harris wins by a landslide just so all these weird nerds eat shit. If even just one goes "wow I really let myself get swept up into believing trump/musk was great by my echo chamber it would be worth it. But i doubt we will get such self awareness. The various betting prediction markets also then have been wrong (or manipulated) would also be fun.

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    Dead internet? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within the job hunting process?

    Yes

    (Github project supposedly for AI assisted mass job application, including using the AI to cater resume to job posting. God I’m terrified of ever having to return to the job market this is fucking insane.)

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      God I’m terrified of ever having to return to the job market this is fucking insane.)

      Absolutely. automated AI applicants getting read by automated AI parsers. It’s inanity!

      One thing I hope comes out of all this nonsense is that it collapses the modern job seeing meta completely.

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      (I think I’ve mentioned it here before, but nonetheless)

      both myself and 2 people I know were hunting last year. it’s hell (in tech, which has historically been fucking abysmal at hiring to start with). the ways this shit is going to affect other industries too…

      some numbers: the one friend applied to something in the 1000 posts, the other 400-600 in the space of approx 4-5mo. both barely heard back from anyone, or if they did it was often months after. on some of mine, I got nack/followup mails approx 7-8mo after sending details. and that’s without even mentioning the utter fucking toxic dump swamp of listings…. holy shit what a mess

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      Eugene Meyer, publisher of The Washington Post from 1933 to 1946, thought the same, and he was right.

      I wonder what major world events were happening in the 1930s-1940s that would line up with this…

      As it turned out, Meyer did take the side of the Republican party on some issues. He was opposed to FDR’s New Deal, and this was reflected in the Post’s editorial stance as well as its news coverage, especially regarding the National Recovery Administration (NRA). He even wrote an editorializing “news” story under a fake name

      THERE IT IS!

      But back to Jeff.

      You can see my wealth and business interests as a bulwark against intimidation, or you can see them as a web of conflicting interests.

      Yep. We’re protected from intimidation and extortion so long as we pay our dues to the consiglieri when he comes around and don’t get too chummy with the cops.

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      no escape

      Rest of world: is there no alternative to US hegemony?

      CIA: *raises head from pile of blow, puts gun on table* no

    • @[email protected]
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      Ok actually read the screed. Ahhhh yes good ol’ Jeff “In the years after I bought the WaPo and everyone got suspicious, me and my billions of dollars have done nothing but improve the world and my credibility and definitely didn’t trap anyone in warehouses to die in a tornado, so you all trust me now, right?” Bezos

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      more US politics I know. There is sadly no escape from the fiery vortex that is the U.S. election.

      (e: not blaming you, just posting from outside hell)

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    My enshittification story*: Instagram has been suggesting people for me to follow. It markets them to me by saying “friend X follows this person!” But friend X does not follow this person. Friend X has no tenable connection to this person. Why are you bullshitting me, Zuck? Is the autoplag outflow drain hooked up to Insta?

    *orig JP title: 僕のエンシット化ストーリー

    • @[email protected]
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      oh no, a bunch of nationalist pricks might stop fucking up our community spaces. I might never have a proud Russian gatekeep my contributions ever again! no please don’t go

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        and here’s hoping the American nationalist devs contributing on behalf of their military-industrial complex employer (hello Anduril) take a hint from this and also fuck off to their own communities where they can bully each other for no fucking reason

        they won’t because the cruelty is the point for fascists regardless of nation, but here’s hoping

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          you see, they are Bad Guys, but they’re Our Bad Guys™ so they’re there to stay. russian devs were removed because of sanctions, not because of any moral reservations about nationalism

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      JFC it was just 11 individuals??? To read the Putin sockpuppets having a Russian grandmother was enough to be booted from the MAINTAINERS list, your computer confiscated, and you being sent to Archangelsk on trumped-up charges.

      Oh wait, that’s just what happens to random teens in Russia: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7v5rn8jr82o

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    Adobe execs say artists need to embrace AI or get left behind [Jess Weatherbed, The Verge]

    Adobe is going all in on generative AI models and tools, even if that means turning away creators who dislike the technology. Artists who refuse to embrace AI in their work are “not going to be successful in this new world without using it,” says Alexandru Costin, vice president of generative AI at Adobe.

    Personally, I think this is gonna backfire pretty damn hard on Adobe - artists’ already distrust and hate them as it is, and Procreate, their chief competition, earned a lot of artists’ goodwill by publicly rejecting gen-AI some time ago. All this will likely do is push artists to jump ship, viewing Adobe as actively hostile to their continued existence.

    On a wider note, it seems pretty clear to me Alexandru Costin’s drank the technological determinist Kool-Aid and has come to believe autoplag’s dominance is inevitable. He’s not the first person I’ve seen drink that particular Kool-Aid, he’s almost certainly not the last, and I suspect that the mass-drinking of that Kool-Aid’s fueling the tech industry’s relentless doubling-down on gen-AI. A doubling-down I expect will bite them in the ass quite spectacularly.

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      I mean, he is their VP of Autoplag, so I imagine he’s got even more reason to believe than the average MBA. That doesn’t undermine your point, but I think the fact that adobe has appointed a VP of Autoplag should be part of the story to begin with, rather than being assumed. Did they ever have a VP of blockchain? Or a VP of copyright fraud?

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      not going to be successful in this new world without using it

      The hubris is almost impressive in itself. There’s not a single technology in human history that has managed to kill every art form not using it. Digital art didn’t do it, photography, pencil, movable type printing, nib pens, oil paints, scraffito, probably not even the invention of currency did it. He thinks autoplag of all things will?

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        i suppose when this guy speaks of artists, he means people making art as their primary source of income. not to say that those people aren’t artists as valid as any others. but he’s saying if you don’t use ai to push out stuff ever faster, you won’t make it. fuck taking your time to get inspired and have it mean something, just give us the soulless garbage to sell our products already.

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          I somewhat assumed so based on the usual corporate ghoul definition of “successful”. That’s why I included currency as something without which artists have managed to make a living since its invention. That particular example may be arguable, but being a successful artist is not and will not be predicated entirely on how fast one can crank out “content”. How many movies do the wealthiest directors put out per year?