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wow that guy has my vote! 😀
It’s the American way, every four years Congress gets one thing done.
We need to keep daylight savings and eliminate standard time. We’re on standard time right now. I hate it getting dark at 5pm.
While most people seem to say they prefer DST, research strongly supports permanent standard time.
2/3rd of the research in that link is anecdotal. Further, I still want DST to be permanent. I like it dark in the morning and light further into the day.
Exactly. I’d much rather have more daylight during “my” time after work than while I’m at work in the morning.
I remember seeing some research draw this conclusion as well, but IMO it’s the wrong conclusion since a lot of the data in the studies I saw seemed to indicate the issues stemmed from the actual switch, not whether we did things an hour earlier or later. It’s that transition period that fucks things up. While I’d prefer permanent DST, I don’t care that much. I just want the endless, stupid dance to stop and never switch again.
As someone in daylight savings time now, it’s still bright outside at 830pm and that needs to stop
As someone who doesn’t like the sun that thing needs to stop
Fuck DST. I hate it staying dark in the morning.
Fite me.
Seriously. DST fucks with my sleep schedule so badly when I have to get up before sunrise…
“Flying groin kick!”
For sure, it’s depressing as hell for it to get dark so early.
Didn’t that little rascal George Bush 2 try this and fail? Expecting the same results.
Biden did aswell
Will y’all shut the fuck up and act like you don’t want this? You’re going to ruin it.
We absolutely need to start protesting this so he makes it a priority.
This is literally how to shape his entire presidency and keep him from completely destroying the country. This move right here, every time.
Let’s make a list of things and how to complain and stick to the script.
I’ll go first. Man, I love tariffs!
The only way that Democrats will eventually come out on top here is massive tariffs. We have to get the word out and thank Donald Trump for his concept of a plan on tariffs.
Dang, I sure do love that Obama created daylight savings time. I hope it never goes away. Thanks Obama!
Some, if not all people agree that this makes him the YUGEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME
Good
Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.
Oh, I guess he’s ok then.
Naa wasn’t even his idea. He’s just taking credit for something that’s already been dragging out for years.
Regardless of this cunt, I’ll be happy for no DST
Same
Well, good.
The EU parliament had a vote to abolish DST, and it passed. They just forgot to hammer out the details, then COVID and Ukraine happened, so focus shifted.
I hope they’ll pick up the ball again at some point.
Perhaps if the US does it, they’ll follow. And then anywhere else left will do the same and we can be done with this nonsense.
The decision is made. It just takes a while for the 27 countries to get their local legislation up to speed. Many haven’t decided whether they’d want to be on standard time or +1. There’s some business advantage to being on the same timezone as your neighbors.
And then software manufacturers need some heads up to get their shit together.
It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.
Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.
It wont be too bad. If you mean computers used commercially, Unix keeps a running total of seconds since the epoch and DST only affects whats displayed as time. Nothing will fundamentally change for these systems. In windows server products it wont be a problem, and some windows clients use an automatic patch process. Air gapped computers may have some hacky process around DST, but its a pretty solved problem.
As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there’s usually no problem. But, I’m sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly “hard-coded” rule set.
I’d bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.
Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.
Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.
He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
Based
If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don’t care if it’s dark in the morning, I’m working. Don’t tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I’m allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren
Darkness is our fren
Have they come to talk with you again?
Yes, because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping.
How is it worse? I want permanent DST so bad
Standard time is better for health, someone made a better argument for it in some other thread
Ah an argument, well I guess it’s settled then and it won’t ever be worse than the other way around
Right, you’re free to look it up further but it messes with the internal clock or something. For my latitude, DST sucks
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night
But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time
The far-right former brasilien president did the same
