Sigh
I mean okay sure. I guess I’m glad they’re finding out? Just wish they could have learned this shit like adults
Proof yet again that it’s only events that affect the entire herd, like this one, that provoke actual change.
The more things change, we’re still mainly dumbasses
Yeah, all of this feels a lot like propaganda, but it’s hard to tell. It’s just odd that people are aware enough to download this app, but don’t know any basic facts about their own country.
Not to mention a lot of the examples are also just more misinformation. Like the example about price of food, thats a lot more complicated comparison than just dollars spent.
Yeah ever since this started I have felt like it’s just a bunch of bots pushing an agenda… And people of course are falling for it… Like people are only downloading it to see why people would… Because “people” the bots are pushing it hard…
The whole thing makes no sense…
.world was set to make vote counts more public and people were against it. It’s insane.
I don’t care what your ideology is, or which side of the isle you’re on. This is a good thing. What may come of it, is yet to be seen. I’m convinced however, this will make us stronger as a species in a death struggle against capitalism.
Cultural exchange is the death of fascism. Once you realize that people everywhere are just… people, the whole “othering” construct that props up nationalism falls apart.
The “aisle” refers to the space which divides the majority side from the minority on the House and Senate floor.
Do I find the flood of users from TikTok to Rednote extremely funny? Yes, absolutely.
Do I think its indicative of an ideological sea change in a country that’s gradually closing the door on any kind of subversive or radical sentiment? Not particularly, no.
People who just want to watch TikTok dances and re-cut Family Guy shorts aren’t going to win a death struggle against the owners of the biggest treat machines. Rats fleeing a sinking ship are not agents of revolutionary change.
Especially rats with such fleeting attention spans that this will blow over within a week.
False dichotomy but I could see it either way
Corn is 64c a can here in White Flight Missouri
There’s a lot of water in canned corn though. Probably easier to compare with frozen.
Yeah, but that’s Corn water. You don’t get that with frozen.
About $1.20/lb at both stores near me.
Edit - fresh corn on the cob is $0.70 per ear near me. In January.
$8.40 a dozen, which is only slightly more than what local farmers are now charging here in the Midwest in the summer when it is in season. That’s nuts. I can’t imagine it’s very good at this time of year though.
I am sure it is frozen and thawed. Seems strange to grow corn in a greenhouse.
Where in the ever loving fuck is corn $7/lb? A 7/11 in Alaska supplied exclusively by dog sled?
I get this sentiment here but the way these posts are filled with straight up lies makes it feel like agitprop.
It does seem like a psy-op, especially since people are denying that Social Credit exists.
Social credit doesn’t exist.
It was a proposal that was piloted in 4 cities, and then scraped.
One thing that does exist is that if you are taken to court for certain antisocial behaviors (including not paying debts) is that you can be sentenced to certain hardships, i.e. banned from domestic flights or high speed trains (commuters take 10 times as long, if not more, on long distance travels), your application for a passport can be denied, you can be barred from home ownership etc. etc. for a number of years.
Those hardships were proposed as outcomes of bad social credit scores, vs. preferential treatment for enrolling kids in good schools, better interest rates on loans and deposited, eligibility to pre-book domestic trains on high intensity days (on Chinese New Year, trains are frequently booked out).
The benefits have been completely discarded, and the hardships were taken over into the penal code.
Source: Used to live in China during the pilot phase (foreigners were exempted though), I speak Chinese, my wife is Chinese, and I still visit frequently.
“It doesn’t exist, because what does is so much worse.”
Explain?
Or the country in which you live with significantly more control over what you see has been running a much longer much more successful psy op to get you to believe wild things in the first place. Like social credit.
Also how much are Chinese getting paid comparatively. I’d rather see what % of each sides income goes to various things. If $1 is 50% of your income and $7 is 5% of the US side’s… Like I can move to a nice place in Mexico and live like Elon or Bezos does here…doesn’t mean Mexico has its shit together and a higher quality of life.
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You us federal minimum wage is less then 8 dollars, america is a third world country with the most extreme wealth inequality on earth. You are delusional if you think otherwise.
Beijing has the highest hourly minimum wage in China of 26.4 RMB, which is equal to $3.7 USD per hour.
They miquoted the TikTok, it’s prices per kg
1kg is 2.2lbs, so that still doesn’t make sense.
As a Brit its hard to tell sometimes when posts are just Americans complaining or if they really are being screwed over. We don’t really grow corn like America does, for bulk cheap veg I guess we have potatoes. Spent £0.68/KG on them when I walked to Aldi the other day. Our minimum wage is £11.44/hour and rising to £12.21 in April.
The federal minimum wage in the United States is $7.25 per hour. That’s equivalent to about £5.95 . For reference.
Most states have their own minimum wage, which complicates things. My home state, for example, just increased its minimum wage to $15.49 . That’s about £12.72, so close to par with what yours will soon be.
Don’t forget that employers can pay disabled employees less than that $7.25 that was established in 2009.
When corn is in season, fresh corn cobs sell for about 5 for $1. I’d guess each cob is about 1 pound, so we’re talking $0.20/pound, or $0.44 per kg.
Obviously the corn cob itself isn’t edible, so you’re not getting a pound of food from each, but there is also bulk processed frozen corn year round that is still usually less than $1/lb.
Agitprop? On my Lemmy?
Agitprop? On
myour Lemmy?Ty for fixing it I almost had to report that guy for antisocial behavior
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The corn thing is absolute bullshit. The ambulance thing is dead on. I got my ambulance bill today from the city Fire Dept. And it is $3,900 to go 4 miles, no lights, sirens, or drugs administered in the vehicle. Just a ride.
Insane to me as a European.
I had a surgery on my nose done, to improve breathing at night. Was fully covered by my health insurance no questions asked, and according to their statement less than 2000€ incl a night in hospital. Only thing I had to pay was like 10€ or so to the hospital.
Can’t imagine what that would have cost in the US of A. I’d probably still be struggling with breathing.
So I can’t say what your cost would have been but can tell you mine for a minor stroke.
3 days in ICU, Clot Buster drug, CT Scan, MRI Scan, ECG, Heart Ultrasound, 3 Blood Screenings, and a slew of other drugs, tests, and treatments.
Total: $236,678.49 Including the Ride to the Hospital. I didn’t have insurance at the time as I was out of work and my wife was moving to a new position so I’m on the hook for 100% of that.
My dude, this is so wrong man. You didn’t do anything wrong. What we even doing it we aren’t taking care of each other? What’s this all for?
So many people talk about winning the lottery but it feels like everyone is playing this “reverse” lottery game where at any moment you could be on the hook for an eye-watering amount of money.
I’m a Brit living in Canada. I hurt my ankle at a pub in London, UK and it swelled like hell and I got out the tube at London Bridge to find a hospital that I found on Google Maps. I went there and the front desk person was like this was a private establishment you gotta go elsewhere. I was like, “ah crap” so I went back to the tube station. Apparently a tube station employee saw me leave and knew where I was headed and that I’d be back. So an ambulance was waiting for me to drive us (another girl there was passed out drunk) to the (correct) hospital. It took a long time to be seen and I stayed there all night, but I paid for nothing. I got the crutches for free and the therapy and like, I didn’t even SHOW them my ID.
When I came back to Canada and Trump was making his threats. I have some right-wing friends that were like, “we should merge with the states”. I said, “dude, that’s a bad idea with healthcare, I know you think it sounds okay because you think you have insurance and stuff … but it’s gonna be bad for us as a country.” He was defiant about it and that we should join the states though.
Please kick your friend in the nuts on my behalf. Thank you.
At first I was thinking he should kick his fascist friend in the head. But then I realized his friend’s brain wasn’t working anyway so a kick in the pills is clearly the wise choice.
I’m on the hook for 100% of that.
I mean, not really. “Owing” someone 200+k is more of their problem
I mean, if I don’t want to lose my 780 credit score, or deal with harassment you’re not wrong.
Did you ask the hospital if they could reduce that or pay for some of it from grant money or something?
It’s not even the insurance part that is a scam, US prices are ridiculous as well.
I broke my arm in a pretty complicated way, so I needed a 3h surgery with a bunch of metal bits now screwed to my bones and iirc they kept me like 4 - 5 days in the hospital. On top of that, a bunch of imaging (MRI, CT, bunch of X-rays).
Due to some miscommunication/arguing between insurances, I got the full bill at first (in the end, regular health insurance paid 100%). So I know this whole thing costs about $10k out of pocket.
You are getting scammed.
Holy shit. We have everyone pay ~15% of their wages to health insurance which sure sucks for some if they don’t need anything paid (e.g. me, since I was always healthy). But than again that bill would not be such an issue around here.
Damn, you people need more Luigi’s.
Yeah, we are long past time for something like that. My philosophy for years now has been that it’s time to introduce some politician and billionaires to some classic French technology.
Agreed. History is really important and should be taught in more detail.
Absolutely agreed.
My elementary school taught early U.S. history (colonial era, Pilgrims.) Middle school taught ancient history (the Fertile Crescent, ancient Egypt, etc.)
My high school taught one (1) year of world history.
Then two more years of U.S. history.
Because, you know, 'Murican priorities.
Unless you are fearing for your life, call a taxi.
Thanks captain hindsight. 🫡
Depending on how much of the firewall that Beijing wants to maintain i think it’ll bifurcate into an a Chinese and an international app
Corn is absolutely not $7/lb wtf are you even talking about.
The original post they’re quoting tplked about kilograms, not pounds
Let’s forget corn and look at other groceries. Where I live, half a gallon milk is $5, a loaf of bread is $6.5, potatoes are $3 a pound, dozen eggs are $6 and so on. Grocery prices only rose about 200% in the past 4-5 years. I used to get loads of food for $100, now everytime I do a grocery run I pay at least $70-80.
Are you buying, like, Fairlife milk, Ezekiel bread, and the most organic, freest rangiest eggs on the shelf?
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Oh, the most expensive things on the market are representative of the country as a whole… 🙄
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This is selective. A dozen eggs at Aldi near me is $3.50. There is no loaf of bread in the store which is $6.50. According to my grocery log I have kept over the past ten years, process are up about 20% since 2020.
That is based fully on where you live. I just got home from the grocery store.
1 Gal Whole Milk: $2.69 1 Dozen Large Free Roaming Chicken Eggs: $2.89 2.5 lbs 80/20 Ground Beef: $7.86 5lb bag Russet Potatoes: $2.56 5lb bag Satsumas: $7.85 1 Loaf Whole Grain Bread: $3.12
But at the same time, I did see that a 12 pack of Pepsi was $9, 1/2 gal Tropicana Orange Juice $5.50. I didn’t get these things, but they were more then they used to be by a significant margin.
An ear of corn yields, on average, about 3/4 cup or 2oz of kernels. There’s 16 oz in a pound. My grocery store was selling ears of corn for $.67/ea. 16 / 2 * .67 = $5.36/lb. You can get ears of corn pre-shucked and wrapped in plastic for closer to $1/ear, at which point you’re looking at an even $8/lb.
$7 is in the ballpark, at the least. The markups on even simply abundant produce like corn is absurd.
That’s a pretty steep price per ear and frozen bags of prepared corn are even way cheaper.
I agree, although even the frozen bags aren’t cheap-cheap. $.67/ear is a high water mark. I remember getting 10/$1 not all that long ago (pre-COVID)
Tl;dr, banning TikTok was the right move and we should have done it sooner. I’m sorry you’re addicted to brain rot.
Tell me you’re a brain washed capitalist moron with… nm
Lol, reaching? In what way do you draw the conclusion that I am against TikTok for anything to do with capitalism? TikTok is a tool for the Chinese government to take user data while simultaneously providing nothing but brain rot to the consumers (of course, this isn’t the case with the Chinese version, it actually shows educational content). Eat shit, Pooh Bear.
“Chinese government to take user data while simultaneously providing nothing but brain rot to the consumers (of course, this isn’t the case with the Chinese version, it actually shows educational content)”
Isnt all the content on tiktok user-generated?
Isn’t all the content on YouTube, Facebook, Reddit Lemmy, etc user created? It’s about the moderation. What gets deleted, what gets promoted, those are the things that are different.
Are implying that the CCP is actively removing educational content from western tiktok?
No, I’m stating the fact.
Are American social media platforms not sharing data with the American government?
They’re all the same, banning one is missing the point.
No the government buys the data from them like everyone else 😏
Cool thing I didn’t say “but Facebook is good and needs to stay” then, huh?
I thought this community was about political conversation WITHOUT the jerks
If banning the harvest of user data was the real reason for going after tiktok, they would’ve banned harvesting user data. Meta infamously sells their’s to the highest bidder. Are you certain they don’t sell to China? They’ve been caught lying about what they do with it before
Wild how two of you read what I wrote and inserted commentary about Meta that I never mentioned. Ban all of Meta too, please, I really mean it.
That’s my point! We can’t just have the government wack-a-moling businesses like that, that’s not impartial governing.
Why does the government need to be impartial when dealing with public health and safety?
Why does the government need to be impartial…
…uuummm, because it’s fair and just? Ngl, I’m not sure how else to answer that because I’ve never heard somebody argue against fair and consistent application of the law before. Maybe I’m just being an idealist here, but when somebody compromises health and safety, they should get disciplined because it’s against the law to compromise health and safety; Not because they happened to catch the attention of Congress.
Edit: Actually let me ask you because I need to know: Why shouldn’t the government be impartial in matters of health and safety? In what situations should the violations of health and safety by some parties be ignored and those of other parties be exaggerated? Because, you know, that’s what “partial” means.
nm = never mind
The intention was that I didn’t need your participation to make my point. But here we are. Thanks for the reinforcement!
if you didn’t want to interact you could have just not posted anything. You want to do your point but you know it doesn’t hold any ground and cannot stand the slightest opposition so you bail.
that whole pooh the bear shit is racist as fuck in the first place. “Ahah the chinese guy is yellow ahah”.
Do you also support comparing black people to monkeys?
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No, I support comparing them to tiggers, because tiggers are wonderful things.
“CHINESE PERSON IS YELLOW AHAHAHAH VERY FUNNY”
And by that logic, black people are orange, I guess? Or maybe it’s about how much they look like the character and not what color they are.
LMFAO, it’s because he looks like fucking Winnie the Pooh you dipshit. 🤣
Of course he looks like Winnie the Pooh to you, you racist prick.
The only thing you notice about a chinese guy is the color of his skin that’s pathetic
LMFAO, you aren’t even a good troll. This is the most common and least effective style of trolling and it makes me laugh every time. Just quintuple down on everything, keep repeating yourself ad nauseum, I’m sure you’ll convince me that I’m a racist soon if you just keep trying! 🤣
Because I’m not a troll at all. You are the one denying the obvious. You find it funny to compare a chinese person to a yellow cartoon character, and what’s the humour beside sheer racism?
“Ahah racist caricature so funny. Very lol”. The nazis had very funny caricatures of bignosed jews if you’re interested.
Sounds like a fun new game, called “Propaganda or not?”
“Corn is $7/lb in America” is either propaganda or a joke from Arrested Development
Corn is 64c a pound where I am, not close at all to where it’s grown.
2$ here in houston
What grocer? 64 is at Aldis in FL.
Heb
Aldis is always cheaper than Americas grocery store chains, often by a lot.
Sounds like you should go there then, there’s a bunch if Aldis in Houston TX.
I’m saying that because its common that aldis has corn for say 75 cents a pound and kroger has it for 2$ a pound. They are less than a mile apart by me.
The best kind of propaganda is simply a perspective on the truth.
Back when Drudge Report and Brietbart were a huge hit online, the sites would have subcommunities that were entirely “Black Crime” and “Radical Islamism”. They got flooded with videos, screenshots, testimonials, news reports, publicly available statistics - anything to reinforce the base claim that black and Muslim people were inherently dangerous to be around. You’ll find lots of communities like that today on Reddit and 4chan and Twitter and in the back corners of your Joe Rogan Fan Community message boards, too.
People who come out of these media ecosystems are primed to be reflexively angry and terrified. They’ve been filling their brains with data point after data point - plenty of which are technically accurate - cementing the justification for their racist attitudes.
Now you’re seeing something of the reverse on sites like Rednote. Endless iterations of data from Americans signaling that we are all miserable and impoverished and horribly abused by state administrators. What’s that going to do to the brains of the people who consume it?
It is also no.1 in Singapore’s google play store.
I just don’t know why they didn’t move onto Instagram.
Instagram is much more centered around influencers, there’s little dialogue.
probably because Instagram is old.
Instagram users vowed to call tiktokers every racial slur they could if they posted on reels.
The fuck are you on about?
Fuck instagram
I’m a big fan of North Korean social media myself.
The app where you can criticize your own country but not the Chinese Communist Party.
And this is why I’ve given up on Americans and America in general.
