Apparently, some schools in the U.S. didn’t teach phonics until recently (2014).
Did anyone here learn phonics in school?
I just had the phonics monkey
It was taught in my first grade class in the early 1970s.
Long after I learned to read. At which point it was just confusing since so many words can’t be ‘sounded out’.
I learned to read alongside learning to speak, learned it like a language, not like a code, I didn’t really sound things out consciously, it went in the other direction, I recognized words. So by 3 years I could read quite well, and did come by that path to an understanding that the individual letters had sounds.
Like if you’ve ever seen a little kid learning to write, they start with just scribbles then lines of scribbles then clumps of “letters” then actual words with letters. That is sort of the process I had - books held stories, then I saw there was writing, then my mom read the stories while pointing to the words, then I pretended I could read by memorizing the book, but then just jumped to being able to read. Anything. Like first book was “bears on wheels” but second book was Grendel, and I could read the newspaper, literally think I could understand written language more than spoken.
So anyway - yes was taught phonics but not taught to read with phonics.
Nope. Never even heard of it until recently, in the context of kids leaving school unable to read.
I didn’t, for me it was “Ai, Bee, See, Dee, Eee, Eff, Jee” (except in my local language Danish). My children all learnt phonics in their U.K. school and it’s taught them to read 5x faster I’d say).
I remember one time thinking about how my grandpa didn’t learn this and other related skills as a kid the same way I did in school and so we understand our same language a totally different way, where I saw parts of words, he just saw a whole word.
I’m not sure what specifically is meant by phonics. My grandma taught first grade for 30 years, ending around 2000. She said when phonics came in “that’s just teaching reading” and when phonics went out “well, obviously we still have to teach how the alphabet works” and when phonics came in again “eye roll”. So, whatever the school leadership says, my guess is kids are learning phonics.
A lot of kids were taught to read badly. There’s this whole “whole word” and “cuing theory” approach to reading that doesn’t work very well. https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/
Apparently 65% of fourth graders aren’t proficient at reading (as of the linked source from 2022)
Back in the day, we learned phonics and syllables, and the general proper way to spell, pronounce and enunciate words.
Today people are lazy, and say shit like ROTFLMFAO, and expect everyone else to know what that letter salad means.
That’s early 00s speak tho.
I said back in the day. I was born in 1982, back when people Xeroxed their memes and knew how to spell out things like Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off.
Xerox?! In my day we only had those faded-ass mimeographs, stinky sheets of blurry purple letters :P
…and we learned phonics in Canada in the late 70s.
Ah, we actually had those purple mimeographs in gradeschool! Yep, the quality was shit, but it worked.
I just figured more people would remember Xerox. 🤷♂️
stinky sheets of blurry purple letters
Hey now, the fresh ones smelled pretty good!
Back when you had to upload your memes via scantron
No, but I remember seeing the TV ads for Hooked on Phonics
Hooked on phonics worked for me!
1-800-ABC-DEFG
No, while it was known, it was not taught at my schools. My mother hated the entire concept so if they tried she’d likely have raised hell.
Or just put us somewhere private instead. The much more sensible option lmfao
She hated the concept of… teaching what sounds letters make? Was she a big proponent of cuing, or something else?
She disliked a lot of the newer methods of teaching, so I’m guessing she preferred whatever was before that. The only one she named really was the New Math and I’m positive the New Math was pretty old by the time I was taught it. Have you ever watch Lehrer’s song New Math? That’s what I was taught, and if it was new then, it was ancient when I got to it!
Oh phonics is the old one (although it’s making a comeback). The “new” one that they’ve been promoting for a couple decades (and have recently realized isn’t very good) is cueing, the one where you just show kids words and encourage them to use context clues to guess what they mean, and hope that they eventually learn to read by doing that. Phonics is the one where you start with letter (and letter group) sounds and learn to sound out words by reading out loud.
It was new at the time! Or maybe. While the education I got was pretty good, it was eclectic. I only remember learning math. I picked up language before solid memories form. I also sort of have some brain uh. Problems.
I liked moving the tens to the ones place. I think these days kids are doing some kind of cube thing? Seems neat!
No, but I remember overhearing one of my teachers saying it’s actually helpful. That was in the early 90s in California.
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