Well, duh. A slowly boiling pot of water is just a fucking hot tub for 90% of the time you’re in it.
USA != America
Also the only animal whose greed and hoarding behavior outdoes it’s conspecific altruism.
Not on average, but we allow the most greedy to self-select into power, tipping the balance.
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Don’t forget the millions of us chained to the bottom because we have no choice
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Oh hello my friend, you fully drowned yet? I’m getting there.
Having no choice people think we can just jump ship (or I guess the pot) when they don’t realize the people who can’t do it at all because there chained to it
For instance trans people can’t get passports or renew them meaning they have absolutely no way to leave.
We need to stay and help the disenfranchised instead of jumping ship
For instance trans people can’t get passports or renew them meaning they have absolutely no way to leave.
given long enough you can just cross the border and claim asylum
How so?
Geniunely don’t understand how being trans prevents you from getting out?
I’d assume when being asked about your sex, I’d just swallow the pride (no pun intended) and say what the sex at birth was to get the paperwork done. As soon as ones out it won’t matter as much anyway.But even in your source, which does explain the circumstances (which are bad), they mention how it needs to be under the sex that is on your certificate.
I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow (ignoring constant interruptions by unecessary policy changes)I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow
Or, you know, you live in a red state that fights tooth and nail to not update that information, all in the hopes that this day would eventually come.
Updating your vital records is a state level item, and the process will vary by state, and that’s a requirement to get it changed on your Federal passport. Please don’t forget that a large amount of states have been trying to pretend these people don’t exist, and now the federal government is trying to help make that a reality. For an example of the difficulties as reported 3 years ago:
States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on driver’s licenses
Georgia.
Guam (U.S. Territory).
Iowa.
Kentucky.
Louisiana.
Northern Mariana Islands (U.S. Territory).
South Carolina.
Tennessee.
Texas.States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on birth certificates
Alabama.
Arizona.
Arkansas.
Georgia.
Guam (U.S. Territory).
Iowa.
Kentucky.
Louisiana.
Missouri.
Nebraska.
New Hampshire.
North Carolina.
North Dakota.
Wisconsin.States barring residents from amending their gender designation on official documents
Montana.
Oklahoma.
Tennessee.
West Virginia
I’ll note again that this was 3 years ago, before the massive wave of anti-trans legislation in the last couple of years.
This is not the case. Trans people are being denied passports of either gender marker as officials “wait for clarification” on the new rules. Furthermore, passports are being confiscated.
Big oof then. Good luck for the folks that need it to escape.
ok. ok. ok. this is a bit of a stretch. I mean its really not all that slow.
This would imply that they’re not surrounded by other pots filled with water which is (varying degrees of) boiling. We don’t really have a Socialist Utopia meeting spot, let’s say.
Beyond that, eloping requires a not insignificant amount of money (as a Romanian, I can say that homes/apartments aren’t cheap here, either, and we’re not exactly L.A.)
And at the other end of the line, immigration’s not exactly thought of with fondness, even in Europe. Don’t forget, we’re stewing in our own pot even if the heat’s still relatively tolerable.
This is a problem I’m having now with my boyfriend. I want to get out of the US and he says, “Where? Everywhere’s falling to fascism right now. And it’s hard and expensive to emigrate.” It doesn’t help that he also thinks it’s not worth it to think about leaving until the water’s actually boiling and he has verified it.
Your boyfriend is right. Unless one of you has an in-demand technical degree or a lot of money, immigration to Western countries is going to be out of reach. That leaves you with weakened economies which are either already authoritarian, or trending authoritarian. Even if you could get to a place like Europe, far-right parties emboldened by their new U.S. support are rising in popularity and receiving centrist support in places like France and Germany.
There is no green field to relax in while the rest of the world collapses. You’ll have to fight to prevent the slide to fascism wherever you go.
True - it’s the rising tide right now and probably for humanity’s future since we’re on a sinking ship globally. I do have the benefit of working for a global company and a boss who’s already told me I can transfer to whichever country I pick that they operate in. But he’s not as optimistic for his own job needs, and it’s still about choosing a country that could possibly just let us die in peace before it also goes to shit.
Yeah most people were like “I’m moving to Canada!” Ignoring the fact that the person most likely to be PM in a couple months is also fully a Musk shill. Europe is pushing right-wing and the UK’s been down bad for a while. Maybe Australia or New Zealand?
The Scandanavian countries currently look the safest to me. I think Iceland would be nearly ideal, in a lot of ways. but I worry that they may be annexed by one of the larger powers as things get uglier.
Yes I was gonna say Scandinavian countries too but I have heard of a lot of institutional and general racism there (although where isn’t there that right now…). Probably still a top choice though when it comes to run of the mill racism vs full on Nazis I guess.
Its such a shit situation. If you want out, you generally need to get a job in another country. A job in a different country generally pays significantly less than the cost of living in most of the USA, so you need to already have a significant amount of money already saved to even consider it an option.
Most of us are just fucking trapped.
And in the case of the EU you probably aren’t getting in unless you’re highly credentialed. For all their shit talking they sure hate large-scale immigration.
Maybe I’m missing the point, but COL in other countries is also only a fraction of the US’s. We don’t live in hunger and squalor over here, you know. Plus, to move, you won’t need significant savings.
No, the real issue, as with all migration from high- to low-wage countries, is that you cannot easily return for retirement because you’re not going to be able to save enough for the US’s housings prices or rents.the biggest things in the way here are going to be citizenship, the US has really lax citizenship most of the time, compared to a lot of other countries especially.
And your job, assuming you don’t work in a large national business, or from home, in a way that they’re willing to accommodate.
Isn’t it for all animals. If you keep slowly increasing temperature their body temperature will more easily come to equilibrium with outside temperature than it will if you just put them to hot boiling pot?
No, it’s a fallacy. What is true is called “creeping normality”, and it’s absolutely what humans do to large scale and/or slow changes.
Lobsters
Inside the pot: slowly boiling water
Outside the pot: raging inferno that is heating the pot
When given the option to slowly boil, or jump into a raging inferno, I think most people would think twice about jumping out of the pot.
Pot boiling and the raging inferno are both in America. Go and explore, the world is more peaceful then you think
I understand, but like lots of people in America I was born here and have have had my wages suppressed because of multiple “once in a lifetime” financial crises to the point I can’t afford to travel, and therefore I can’t afford to immigrate.
I genuinely so sorry and wish the good Americans could move over easier. One word of advice you don’t have to take at all. If you wanna travel look into placements like teaching or volunteering. Having a more global perspective rather than America focus will help a lot, seeing a world outside the bougie third world nation of America. But I’m rooting for you bud
Called my mom last night, told her to renew her passport asap.
Most people are like “the waters warm, this is nice, what are you going on about???” And I’m like “hi yes this water is scalding hot and about to boil we need to get out!”
Renewed mine online in October. Received in 12 days.
That was under the previous administration… musk is hollowing out federal jobs so I bet the wait will be tough. Especially as more frogs realize that the pot is boiling…
Longer wait times? B…b…b…but he’s the head of the department of government efficiency, who could’ve seen this coming!?
People from all over the world are trying to get into this boiling pot. Despite America’s flaws, very few places are better alternatives when you look at economic opportunity and political rights. It is popular to trash on America now because who is president for the next four years but there’s also only so many things he can do with an executive order and Congress isn’t a fast moving engine.
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I said very few places were better alternatives. Scandinavia is never going to be able to accommodate the volume of migrants as had the United States. Scandinavia also has a lot of problems regarding their immigrant communities … high unemployment, crime, and difficulty integrating. When comparing people in the US and places like Sweden, if you control for factors like race or immigration status, the average expected experience fairs very well in the United States. Where I live in the US is very clean, gun violence is low, my cost of healthcare is almost zero … really the only thing I’d like is the vacation time but I am self-employed and am a cruel boss to myself. Most of the problems Europeans try to claim about the US are problems that do exist but are largely confined to black communities. These problems do need to be addressed but are things that Europeans have no real comparison to outside places that have large romani populations.
You’re out to lunch, musk is couping the government and breaking it on purpose.
The technofascists want their fiefdoms and they’re trying to kill most of us so they can rule the rubble. Curtis yarvin, look him up.
Drank the Koolade huh?
The US has been looked-down upon by the world for a long, long time. Now we’re just starting to feel bad for you.
Edit: downvoted by americans I see - please note that despite the internal propaganda you’ve been fed, most of the world is laughing at you. “Acting like an american” is something we say if someone is being obnoxious or stupid. Traveling abroad as a Canadian, if someone asks if I’m american, I correct them, because the world would much rather deal with Canadians than americans. Sorry the truth hurts.
I hope America will have democratic elections in four years. But I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
Trump is a fascist, has both chambers and the supreme Court behind him. At best, it’s going to be a very dark four years for minorities, women and poor people.
The US will have a democratic election in two years and it is very likely the Democrats will retake the House of Representatives. After that time, everything President Trump tries to do will rapidly decelerate. Of course, that depends on what the Democrats do to win the vote. Right now they are doubling down on the things that made them into losers the last election. They need to get their act together.
I sincerely hope you’re right.
Huffing a bit much on copium n.americanium?
I’m trying! I’m working towards proving I’m Polish-by-descent, then I’ll be able to hold an EU passport. It’s slow going.
And in the mean time, I’m in a trans-friendly state, can pass as cis and hetero, and I’m white. I have a go bag and a US passport that matches my birth gender. My next steps are improving my food stores to protect against tariff impacts.
The only things that tie me to this country are my friends (who are also looking into exit plans and whom I talk to online more than in person) and my dog (I imagine moving to a new country with a dog is even harder than finding an apartment with a dog). Oh, and I really love my job and my coworkers, but my job might go away with all of the societal upset.
Just short FYI, I don’t know exactly your situation so I won’t go to deep into it, but moving to another country with a dog is no big deal. If you are worried about the dog, they just want to be with you, where ever you go.
Thanks :) I’m probably a bit wary after by watching friends jump through hoops to move to Japan with their pup. Japan has many hoops because they’re rabies-free, which, I didn’t think Europe has the same concern.
My pup is also 16, so sadly I won’t have to worry about him forever.
As an American who just emigrated, I guess I jumped. I can still vote from overseas, but I’m pessimistic about the future.
Where to, if you don’t mind
Japan. I had an offer from an EU country that logically would have been a better choice. But I couldn’t resist my inner child/weeb.
Do they ever harass you for leaving the designated tourist areas?
Not bait I’m legitimately curious.
I don’t think I’ve known of a “designated tourist area” in Japan. I lived there for a month in some town that I doubt there’d be any foreign tourist and nobody harassed me and my friends. We were even helped by the locals and police when one of my friends lost their wallet, and they were super patient about it too.
No, I’ve never experienced anything like that. Even in small towns. I’m sure it happens, but I don’t think it’s common as long as you’re respectful.
The worse thing I’ve personally seen were no foreigner signs on bars during new years eve.
I’ve read (in Japanese, written by Japanese people) that those places will actually welcome you in if speak Japanese and is respectful of the place and other patrons, the latter 2 conditions just like any respectable human should. It could be that they’ve put those up due to xenophobia, but there are also those that just don’t want to deal with people who don’t respect their culture.
Yea these were in a heavily touristy spots. So I don’t blame them.
