I think for me it’s alien: covenant. I was really interested in the ideas explored in prometheus and covenant just expanded on them. I don’t get much into the details of why it is or isn’t a good movie.

Luckily, though, HBO ran raised by wolves which really delved into ideals about AI and planet seeding etc. So that itch got way scratched even if the run was cut short.

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    No idea what the actual ratings are, but the live action remake of Aladdin was absolutely shat on by most of the internet. The original Aladdin was one of my absolute favorites as a kid, so I was gonna see the remake good or bad, and… honestly, fucking loved it.

    I’m guessing the main breaking point for people was the lack of Robin Williams’ Genie, but Disney had the option of trying recreate that genie without Robin Williams or completely remake that character’s personality. Had they gone with the former, it 100% would have 1) flopped, and 2) been kinda disrespectful to Robin Williams imo. Starting fresh was the correct choice. And Will Smith did awesome with his version of Genie.

    Beyond that, it introduced just enough new shit to make it not just feel like a frame-by-frame copy/paste of the original; but overall kept the same fun mystical vibe of the original.

    It earns its spot on the shelf, imo.

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    not really sure how people view it (or even how i’d view it now nearly 30 years on) but i liked that weird Final Fantasy: Spirits Within movie when it came out. haven’t seen it since it was in theatres though so not sure what i’d think of it now; i just thought it was neat at the time (and age of 10)

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      Also Ready Player One. I like the movie where the person go into the computer :)

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        I like the movie where the person go into the computer :)

        Even Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace?

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          I didn’t know they made a sequel

          Now I’m scared

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        Lol, I really like premise too. It can be done better, tho.

        That’s why I support all sorts of sci-fi that is complete garbage. I want the genre to thrive and if we stop showing up Hollywood stops giving money.

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        That’s one where I really think they missed the mark compared to the book. I thought the book was really well done, and had a great premise. Idk the movie just left a sour taste in my mouth. I highly recommend reading/listening to the book

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          I saw somewhere on reddit recently calling the book worse than the movie. I liked the book only because I got to envision my version of all the nostalgic iconography. I’m not sure why reddit was hating.

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          I’m glad that you enjoyed it, but listening to the audiobook was one of the most aggravating reading experiences I’ve had. There were cool bits, but every chapter or two my eyes would glaze over for a minute as Wil Wheaton read off a list of things from the 80’s for a paragraph or two, interrupting whatever flow the book had going on at the time to cram ‘memberberries down my throat. I prefer the movie because I can look at the ‘memberberry references without them interrupting the other cool bits.

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            Okay that’s fair lol, I didn’t know wil read it. I listened to him in Third Eye and he got… Annoying

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      I’ve watched it when I was younger a couple of times but for me personally it was just a movie I watched amd the idea of rewatching it feels boring to me

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        The Daft Punk soundtrack against the hyper-electronic visuals is a fantastic blend for the senses.

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      It’s a work of art.

      A simple tropey story to hang some amazing visual and aural art off.

      I watch it often.

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      I still think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got unfairly dragged. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      It is a pretty mediocre movie overall, but it is just a lot of fun and I have watched it a dozen times.

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          For critics, yeah I think it is 16%er but that is because critics are looking for different things in movies than the audience who wanted to see the movie.

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      Watched it not long ago. Didn’t realize the people rating it have no appreciation for decent movies.

      It wasn’t phenomenal by any means but it was quite entertaining for the duration of it.

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      16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      That crictic rating though, that’s a useless measure. And 44% audience score isn’t that bad.

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        Ebert’s big beef with it was “You can’t drive a car in Venice!” and I’m like “You’re OK with 1800s nuclear submarines, an immortal vampire victim, an invisible man, and a dude who can’t be hurt because his painting takes the damage for him, but driving a car in Venice is a bridge too far?”

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      League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

      pretty sure I watched it in the theater while it was new and I didn’t think it was a waste of time but it is forgettable. It’s only really remarkable thing is being Sean Connery’s last movie

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        As a “last movie” it’s kind of infamous, like Raul Julia as Bison in “Street Fighter”.

    • @[email protected]
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      I don’t disagree that it’s a terrible movie, it’s just a terrible movie that I happened to really like.

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      I remember screening league of extraordinary gentleman and all I could think is it was probably not for me. Not to say someone else wouldn’t like it. I feel like not everything should be rated based on its wide spread appeal.

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      Surprised it hasn’t come back as a streaming channel series of films like “Knives Out”. It’s got a lot of potential.

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    Perhaps “The Missing Postman” - not sure if it actually got canned or is just unknown though.

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    I have two:

    Chalet Girl - Romcom meets 1980s style Aspen Ski Challenge, Felicity Jones, Bill Nighy, Brooke Shields, and Ed Westwick. I personally love it. It’s a great movie to throw on for a boring day, it has some feels, it’s story is predictable but fun - it’s not winning an Oscar but I enjoy it. 5/5 personal scale, 3/5 general rotten tomatoes

    21 - Very lame smart guy meets Vegas, not a heist, not the social network - Jim Sturgess, Kate Bosworth, Kevin Spacey. Didn’t know this was that high up except for I have multiple plays of it. I watched it after having surgery and remember thinking it was amazing - and then watched it later on less pain killers and thought “Oh, well, it’s fine.” 3/5 personal scale, 1/5 general rotten tomatoes.

    Shoutout to [email protected] if you want more discussion like this!

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      I remember seeing 21. I honestly didn’t know it got bad reviews. It seemed fine for what it was.

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      21 was a letdown for me because I read the book first. It’s a great read, fast, light, and fun. The movie just felt thin in comparison.

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    There are a ton of comedies where the critic ratings are low but the audience is high.

    Grandma’s Boy 15 critic 85 audience was the one that is at the top of my head. Hot damn that is a spread, and I am with the audience.

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        The audience has its own self selection bias, as it is people interested in seeing the movie. That is the best group to rate whether the target audience is satisfied with the end result.

        I only look at audience for horror and comedy.

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      The best thing about London Has Fallen is when Gerard Butler has a conversation with a fellow Scot, and you can almost see his natural accent tearing a hole in his face to get out.

      The first one was violent fun though. Kind of 80s.

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    League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

    Tron Legacy

    Guyver: Dark Hero

    Strange Days (get the ultimate extended edition fan edit if you can.)

    Wild Wild West

    Demolition Man

    Judge Dredd

    Highlander II

    Jacob Barlow vs the Demonic Toys

    There are a lot of fun movies that are considered garbage.

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      Highlander two? Man, you do you, but that’s an acquired taste. I’d have a hard time picking to place it above or below Rise of Skywalker.

      If you enjoy so bad it’s good: In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale.

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          The first Human Centipede was a fucking brilliant psychological horror. The second and third were just awful garbage.

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      Highlander II

      Liking Highlander II is so far out of my worldview that I didn’t realise it was an option. What was it you enjoyed about the film?

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        Keep in mind i am not at all going to claim it is… Good. or logical… or any of that, but it had the almighty BALLS to go big with being WEIRD.

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      Judge Dredd was quite good even though Stallone took the helmet off a bunch. IIRC he was willing to do the whole thing in helmet, but I bet the money guys needed to see his face.

      Never thought I’d see the Angel Family on film, that was wild!

      Bonus: The actor playing psychotic cannibal Pa Angel would go on to be the kindly farmer Herschel on Walking Dead.

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          Oh, he definitely did, but I think the Stallone version better captured the absolute bonkers feeling of the comics.

          I just hope the next time someone tackles it we get the Dark Judges storyline, but that might be too expensive to pull off outside full animation.

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        Damn, never made that connection about herschel. I like Stallones dredd just because it’s so quotable.

        Eat recycled food. It’s good for the environment and okay for you.

    • Wait… Stallone Dredd, or Urban Dredd? Because the Stallone one was awful and a crime against the source material, while the second should have had an immediate sequel.

      League I can’t even put into the “so bad it’s good” category, as much as I’d like to. I think I can’t forgive them for wasting such a cast and such a source on the result.

      I hated Legacy, but entirely for reasons having to do with loyalty to the original; it isn’t faithful to the original vision, IMO. That aside, I can grant it was better than it was received.

      🤝 on Strange Days. Fantastic soundtrack, too. Did it get bad reviews? I thought it did reasonably well.

      Same for WWW - didn’t it do well? I thought it was brilliantly irreverent of history. Fun times. Same for Demolition Man!

      Highlander II, though… No. Just no. A running joke with a couple of my friends is that they insist we all saw it together in the theater, but I insist I’ve never seen it. They say it was so bad that I just blacked out my memory to avoid the emotional trauma of having seen it. Honestly though, I have no memory of the film yet a deep revulsion at the idea of watching it.

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        Stallone Dreadd.

        I am in complete agreement with everything you said about it being a crime against 2000 AD Dreadd, yet if one can excize rob schnider from it? It’s popcorn. I’ve asked a few fan editors to have a crack at it because for me it has the same issue as Constantine. It is its own thing I can both appreciate it for being its own thing while also being a crime against the source material…

        Urban Dredd? I kept hoping netflix would pick that up as the pilot to a mega city one police proceedural. that was just some solid movie making and wish we’d gotten more, though conceed ‘what would you do for a sequel?’ thus the idea of direct to stremaing platform show giving any of a number of plots time and space to breathe.

        For me Tron Legacy was a case of ‘disney squandered what they had, then when that one airbrushed movie bombed and they got the MCU they shelved Tron’ … likely permenently. Had a fun soundtrack. Ya the father/son story is a cliche but it’s more an excuse to tour the world more than anything. I liked Legacy’s look as both Kevin’s use of late 80’s ‘money is no object’ hardware vs late 70’s likely PDP based hardware alongside software changes. After all by the end of the eighties the Unix Wars had happened and the landscape had changed. Plus Uprising, while flawed, had promise and showed what life was like in the early days of the regime when CLU kept a facad of normalcy.

        Strange Days feels like one of those movies a LOT of people sleep on and gloss over. I am seriously recommending finding the fan edit scene and seeking it out, because the work done just… elevates it.

        I can respect your opinions of Highlander II. again, fan edits do a lot to save this one for me but even at base ‘eh it’s in the slush pile of shit movies I can run in the background. It’s goofy it’s dumb… run with it.’ Then again I’ve kinda hated most of the highlander movies past the first one for having very little that interests me. Though I did love the show. It was a fun ride even when it got weird. Though I will admit it is guilty of helping popularize the ‘katanas are just better’ trope.

        • See, Constantine I had no issue with because I had never read the source. I thought it was fine, as a movie.

          Urban Dredd almost makes me cry. It was so good, in so many ways. Maybe it, too, wasn’t faithful to the source, which was pretty intentionally campy and Dredd was more grimdark than even the comics. But I just loved Urban’s Dredd; he is Dredd for me. An Urban-less Dredd is like imagining Deadpool without Reynolds. Sometimes the actor embodies a character so well it overshadows even the source.

          I agree completely with what you day about Legacy. Tron does and should reflect the technology of the times; computers have gotten more glossy and organic. I just love the inner universe and aesthetic of the original Tron, and it’s hard to compete with first love.

          Yeah, I think Strange Days was just too weird for the time. I think if it were released today it’d do better. The target audience was still too niche, maybe, back then. I need to watch it again; I haven’t seen it in forever.

          I think it’s best if we just not speak of Highlander. The first is among my favorite movies, and as you say the series was surprisingly not at all bad. But all of the sequel films (3, right? God let it be only 2 abominations)… best left in the oubliette of forgotten memories.

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    I’m uncertain of what the ratings are in general, but there’s probably some horror movie I love that’s been dragged.

    Maybe Insidious? Paranormal Activity 2? As Above, So Below? The Cleansing Hour?

    One of those probably has a shit score somewhere lol.

    EDIT because I realized how lazy I was being:

    Insidious has a 66% on rotten tomatoes Paranormal Activity 2 has a 57% As Above, So Below has a 29% The Cleansing Hour has a shocking 73%

    So my answer is As Above, So Below. Lol But I’m startled about The Cleansing Hour having such a high rating

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      Okay. Unrelated and it’s driving me insane.

      How do I do line breaks for lists like that? If I do two hits of Enter, it acts like a new paragraph in total. But I can’t get it to just jump down to the next line, it just follows after the one above it as if it were continuing a sentence. Bwah!

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        I just press enter

        Leave a space in the blank line here then press enter

        There you go, break in the paragraph.

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        In Markdown, if you want a paragraph break, then whack Enter twice. That is, this:

        foo
        
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        Gives this:

        foo

        bar

        If you want a line break, then add a backslash or two spaces at the end of the line, and then hit Enter. That is, this (you can’t see it, but two spaces after “foo”):

        foo  
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        Gives this:

        foo
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        When I’m doing an actual list, I generally prefer to do either an unnumbered or numbered list, though.

        * foo
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        Gives this:

        • foo
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        And for numbered lists:

        1. foo
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        Gives this:

        1. foo
        2. bar

        It doesn’t look from that like Markdown is buying you much with the numbered lists (traditionally in Markdown, numbered lists were auto-renumbered, which is IMHO a bad idea and is one feature of Markdown that is not implemented here), but this gets useful if you want to do lists with multiple lines, which is done with a four-space prefix on successive lines:

        1. foo\
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        Gives this:

        1. foo
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        2. bar
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        It’s after 3 AM and I need to shut down, but for a second there I thought you were talking about “Faraway, So Close”, which is the sequel to “Wings of Desire”, one of my favorite films ever.

        54% on the tomatometer, could stand to go lower. :(

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    Sucker Punch. Objectively, it’s not really that great of a movie. But it’s one of the most fun movies I’ve ever seen. It’s got over-the-top action sequences, an amazing soundtrack, and a genuinely unique idea for a story that I haven’t really seen done before.

    The final cut ended up removing a very key scene that ties a lot of the story together, which I honestly feel is part of why the movie was so poorly-received, because the theatrical release just doesn’t make sense and ends abruptly. If you decide to watch it, try to find a version that has the deleted scene with the High Roller near the end. It’s a full five minutes of dialogue that ties the entire story together and Warner Brothers scrapped it and it drives me so crazy. It’s like an “I Am Legend’s deleted ending” level of directorial blunder, IMO.