Whats the draw of discord? I don’t get why people go on there. It’s boring af and you gotta talk with people while you play video games. I’ll go on if I absolutely have to for a group, but I avoid if I can.
Whats the draw of discord?
Chat plus streaming as a freemium service that has its hooks in with the networking effect.
Probably the biggest draw of Discord is how many people use Discord. But past that, it fills a bunch of real time social media roles well.
As a case in point, I’m in a game of Pathfinder Kingmaker with friends, and Discord does a good job of letting players join virtually, sharing screens, rolling dice, keeping a log of the different chats, pinning the links to the Kingdom management files, and providing a search function to find historical info.
Being able to enter and sit inside a call where your friends can see that a call is active and who is in call is a really nice feature. It completely negates having to ping a whole group that may or may not be available like with Skype.
Anon doesn’t know, Discord fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.
What do you mean??
I think they are saying that discord is bad because it is not Free software, that it is bad because it is a commercial service
gosh, that makes me feel really nervous
Same! Perhaps I should prune my Discord servers
Anon forgot to put their interpersonal relationships in a RAID array
That is kinda bullshit if they didn’t even see the content.
I mean, seeing as it’s a 4chan greentext there’s probably some very important information being left out.
Entirely possible.
Just because they didn’t participate doesn’t mean they didn’t know it was there.
It doesn’t prove that they knew either. We have this thing called presumption of innocence.
Yeah, in constitutional law. Not in Discord lol.
Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.
Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?
My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn’t name 10 I give a shit about.
As a user you’re voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it’s moderated. Ignorance isn’t a defense here; a server doesn’t get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.
Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There’s no content verification and lots of active channels.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there’s no lack of places to find porn on the internet.
Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you’d hear about this way more.
Discord doesn’t want to ban users, it’s bad for business. They know what servers you’re in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.
Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You’re tilting at windmills people…
I’m in 23 different discord servers. Tech, hacking, DIY, cars, music, etc.
Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck…
how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?
how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?
people get banned for both
get off people’s asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we’re not paid discord admins and we’re not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.
content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn’t get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?
*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.
I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can’t see?
More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.
1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you’ve been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.
And I think I’m pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.
I’m in exactly 1 server, that my friend uses to organize game night at his place with many other people. If I could get him to switch platforms I would delete my account.
Limit is 200 with nitro but there is a reason why unofficial clients have workarounds for the limit
I’m in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven’t used Reddit since the API bullshit… I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don’t feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check
I mean if they have channels called like “CP Central” and the users all talk about how great the CP is on CP Central all the time then it really doesn’t matter how many messages you skip.
Also
I’m not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what’s currently relevant.
This bullshit is exactly why I don’t use discord.
Strawman arguments as far as the eye can see ITT.
Begone, pedo apologist.
Exactly my point. How do you expect to convince anyone of anything if you’re just screaming and pointing fingers and accusing everyone of everything? Be fucking rational or stop trying to change anyone’s mind on anything, because you won’t get there this way.
Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?
In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I’m aware.
I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an “illegal” talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?
I don’t really know how to use Discord except by muting servers immediately after joining and probably never looking at them again
You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?
What’s your point? That personal responsibly stops existing in a large group of people?
My point is that it’s very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.
Of course it’s possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.
I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.
By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.
Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it’s the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.
IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.
You’re only proving your own argument makes no sense by stating this. How is any human being supposed to vet thousands of posts on every server they might join? I get that you’re not familiar with discord, so let me explain, tons of shit is EXCLUSIVELY hosted on discord, literally hundreds of programs, mods, bits of data and whatever else. It’s not on GitHub, it’s not on whateverupload, it’s just on discord, and you have to join the server to get to the download. That’s one of the many reasons people are forced to use discord. So are users meant to review every single post of a server the instant they join it to see if anyone has ever broken the rules? You’re insane.
When are you turning yourself in for associating with that one pedophile by existing in the same country?
So, what you’re saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?
And the reverse is just as true, what point were you trying to make?
Just because they’re part of the server doesn’t mean they knew it was there.
Anon’s big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.
i hate discord so much my first discord account got permabanned because the owner of a server i was in went nuts and doxxed 8 year olds and my second account i got locked out for a year because they thought i was a bot and i couldnt use my phone number to verify because it was already in use on my first account then when i finally got in it had a 6 month ban because a server i was in got raided by racists that said slurs
This doesn’t sound “user friendly” at all to me
Lost yearly Nitro and all my friends
That’s sadder than he seems to understand it is.
I know “lol anon has no friends” is le epic funny meme but by friends, they obviously meant their contacts.
I have a lot of people, I’d consider friends, that I only communicate with through discord. If I lost my account, I’d likely never hear from them again. Kinda get it.
Idk might just be talking about his online friend’s. But knowing 4chan maybe not
This is one of the bigger reasons I don’t want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.
This, the second you aren’t profitable, they put you in the modern day version of solitary confinement.
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Comprehended, yes this is reality you speak of.
Which six companies? Let’s assume we count “social media” as “media”.
Meta, Musk Rat & Co, Google, what else?
Luigi is an American hero. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. It’s what he stands for.
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They’re banning people for upvoting now lol
I’m worried that for reporting all those servers and people, I will get a permaban as a thank you.
This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).
But imagine if it was your email account!
Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.
Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail
And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works
Googles account recovery policy is basically:
- 2fA
- recovery email
- create a new account x.x
I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option
Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail
But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away
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This is what I do as well. A few services force 2fa though and also have 0 good options (let me use my flipper as a u2f through not chrome, ungoogled-chromium works, but damn), and for those I’m forced to use text.
While I’m here, anyone have a good chrome based browser that is private and can use serial ports for flashing meshtastic devices and u2f? Need android mainly because I have ungoogled-chromium on linux, but will take recs for linux too if there’s a better one.
You can still accidentally leak your password via phishing or malware. 2FA is fine if you don’t tie it to a phone number, simplest way: install any authenticator app for TOTP tokens. Scan the QR code on multiple devices like phone + tablet, or old phone, for redundancy. Or save the secret key.
Google and most critical services also give you a list of 10 single use emergency codes that you should print or save in Keepass - lost the phone? Nbd just use one of the codes and reset 2FA.
I also never thought my non shared password would be public but one day I suddenly got prompted on the authenticator if I wanted to login; still no idea how or why but at least no one could get in and immediately rotated out the password.
You don’t evwn need to “scan” anything - you can copy and paste the steing they provide into, for example, KeepassXC, and then thoroughly back up its database.
Nah, any decent password manager or security application can manage multi-factor security credentials of any kind without lock-out due to phone loss.
Password authentication is beyond primitive by offering too many avenues of attack: the full secret is transmitted & shared. Passkeys, client certificates, OTP don’t transmit the secret key. Passkeys & client certificates authentication never share a secret key, so the server can’t expose it.
There was that man who was all in on Google.
He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition
So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it
The phone automatically backs up the photo
Google’s AI says it’s child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted
Police look into it and say “not porn, totally fine” but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted
That’s insane
Yep. Guy had his life pretty much ruined. Don’t tether your life to a company — they don’t care about you, they have no duty toward you
This made me thinking about Valve potentially banning my 19-years-old Steam account due to some error or a mistake 💀 I heard bad things about their customer support.
I’m legitimately paranoid about this scenario, especially since I’m in a couple of ERP servers, and I was friends with ReploidRevo… yes THAT ReploidRevo, and never knew about what he did until after his downfall went viral. (Shocked the Hell out of me because he seemed so normal and on the up and up)
imagine gooning on main
?
gooner? or just curious?
I don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s just fun pretend roleplay with consenting adult other parties
Lost yearly Nitro
You cuck.
I created a Discord account so I could try Midjourney and my account got blocked within a few hours. I use a VPN most of the time, can’t remember if I was with Discord so might have had the same IP as another user. Didn’t bother to set up another account.
They block most VPNs outright.
All the more reason to not use Discord imo.
Mullvad works.
