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Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
I really cannot wait for the pendulum to swing back the other way. I am going to be absolutely insufferable about it until I die. These people have gone so far over the line.
Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.
From the same guy that said he wanted to “cure” autism. Surely you must jest.
Would you say eliminating the idea of the patriarchy or fascism itself is fashy?
I’d say eliminating patriarchy or fascism is coercive, but not (necessarily) authoritarian and definitely not fascist:
- Coercive because you’re using force to suppress the idea (e.g. punching Nazis, canceling abusers.)
- Anti-authoritarian if the people are organically self-organizing to punch Nazis. More authoritarian if a centralized power is drafting people to punch Nazis.
- Not fascist because fascism is inherently far-right, and predicated on enforcing a “natural” power hierarchy.
The Paradox of Tolerance justifies the forceful suppression of fascism and patriarchy. But imo you have to be careful - I limit my application of the Paradox of Tolerance to ideas that intrinsically cannot coexist with freedom of thought.
What noble deed did the kid do that his father called him “woke”? Did he show empathy, or what?
His kid is trans, clearly the woke mind agenda did it.
She legally disowned him (including changing her last name to reflect her mother’s, her mother being Musk’s first wife). Since then Vivian has been openly anti her ex father, including decrying billionaires as a whole, and most recently going in teen vogue to say how her ex father absolutely did a nazi salute, is a raging bigot, and she doesn’t fear him
He’ll never win. People who think like he does have repeatedly tried to kill ideas. They’ve always failed. Sure, he can make some major, sweeping changes, but ultimately he will fail.
WHY (Bang) WON’T (Bang) YOU (Bang) DIE!?! (click click click) Why won’t you die?!?
Because behind this mask Mr. McCready is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof!
How do you know they’ve always failed? BY DEFINITION if an idea has been killed you won’t know it existed.
Eww.
What a dumbass 😂. You cannot kill an idea, it will always be here.
This has “Adam West trying to murder the ocean with a knife” vibes.
Is that something Adam West did in Family Guy, Batman, real life, or all of the above?
Family guy. He, as Mayor Adam West (?), tried to execute the ocean for killing people using “eye for an eye” logic.
Well, a piece of shit can become liquid shit, and liquid shit can become aerosolized. So, yes it’s possible for someone to be shittier than a piece of shit.
“You’re dead to me” is what a bad parent would say. To do it over political ideology is even worse.
He’s a narsassistic asshole who apparently did IVF for all his kids because he wanted all boys.
That one of the kids ended up being a girl because she’s trans despite his effort at avoiding it seems to drive him crazy, especially as someone who thinks he owns his children.
he’s an asshole like all conservatives.
He’s not just narcissistic, he’s also autistic.
Autism has nothing to do with how he acts. Dont push that crap “he is autistic thats why he acts that way”
I agree. But Naia was politicising mental disorders and I thought I’d dare them to go all the way. I hate it when cowards only go after the mental disorders everyone already hates. It’s picking on the weak. Go big or go home!
What politicizing? That he is a narsassistic asshole? He’s also a psychopath, like all billionaires.
I don’t really know what you are even saying. Being autistic does not make you do nazi salutes then joke about it with puns when called out on it.
No mental disorder makes you do Nazi salutes
I’m ADHD and probably autistic. I wouldn’t consider any theoretical children I could have as property nor dismantle programs people rely on to survive.
Being autistic and a greedy asshole is not mutually exclusive. There’s a big difference in not understanding social queues or whatever and having a breeding fetish or whatever he has when it comes to kids.
On top of all the other horrible things. Like Trump he desperately wants praise and such. Its why he lashed out and called that one guy a “pedo” because he felt upstages when he couldn’t be the one to take credit for saving the kids, not that he cared about the kids.
You should feel equally angry when people politicise any mental disorder.
But I’m not politicizing mental disorders. I’m calling an asshole an asshole.
Anyone who then comes out with the BS “but he’s autistic” is trying to politicize autism while also excusing his actions that are literally costing lives.
So spare me your moral outrage while my existance as both a neurodivergent person and a trans person is under attack by the peice of shit you are treating with kid gloves if not trying to defend
You politicised narcissism. Don’t do that. It’s offensive. And if you are going to be a bigot and attack him for having a mental disorder, I dare you to go all the way. Attack him for all his mental disorders, not just the ones society will let you get away with. Commit to your values properly. Go big or go home.
I feel like you are missing the forest for the trees here. You keep fixating on this like some kind of “gatcha” using the exact same phrasing as his defenders who claimed he did the Nazi salute because he’s autistic.
I personally do not give a flying fuck on what “mental disorders” he has. Also, autism is a developmental disability, not a mental disorder. There is a difference.
As far as “politicizing narcissism”, how is pointing out he has traits associated with politicizing it? Like, he’s a fucking fascist who is using the absurd level of wealth he’s accumulated to basically buy the government and get unelected power he is using to dismantle any agency that benefits the masses or has investigated him for business violations.
That’s on top of the social issues where he and Trump are trying to make it harder for minority groups to exist in the world.
It’s been well researched that conservatives tend to have many more narcissistic traits because the entire political ideology hinges on hierarchy and a “fuck you, I got mine” mentality. It’s also been well researched that CEOs are all more likely to have psychopathic traits.
It’s not “politicizing” pointing out traits someone has to explain what they are doing in politics or harm they are causing in general. If someone is a self-centered asshole who act like they are better than everyone else and uses that as the basis for denying other people rights then I don’t really care what the reason behind their self-centered nature is. An asshole is still an asshole. There is no justification or excuse for what they do.
You are basically saying “you’re the bigot” when I point out that a fascist is a fascist. You ignore the substance of what I and others are saying to just attack us and hand wave any issues we have with Musk.
Again, if you feel it’s more important to tone police us because we aren’t using language you like when we talk about a literal fascist that is causing uncountable harm and death, who is supporting and pushing for multiple genocides, who sees his children as property and is using a toddler as a human shield, then I don’t think we are going to find common ground here.
Musk’s actions are indefensible. The only people I’ve seen argue against criticism of him are his sycophants. You are doing “so much for the tolerant left” bullshit. My only question is if you are actually one of his cult members or just misguided.
But in the end it doesn’t matter. If you defend a fascist you are a fascist…
We should probably be more invested in renaming the disorder from a term that’s been an insult for millenia and as such would always be stigmatized
Yeah. Although it’s worth remembering it was an insult with a very different meaning in ancient Greece. Elon Musk is an attention seeker, but Narcissus wasn’t. Narcissus caused all that drama by not wanting to date anyone. Ameinias fell in love with Narcissus and asked for his hand in marriage. Narcissus said no, and told Ameinias to fuck off and die. So Ameinias prayed to the gods “let him love what he cannot have”, and that’s how the reflection thing happened. Narcissus was the opposite of an attention seeker, he just wanted to be left alone.
been an insult for millenia
In common use as an insult since 1979. Prior to that it was used in the psychological field for about a century
I’m autistic. What’s your point?
Politicising mental disorders is the same bullshit no matter which disorder. Musk is a person, his autism and narcissism have nothing to do with his political choices.
His narcissism most certainly has to do with his political choices, especially since it seems his narcissism is driving him to do stupider and more damaging actions. Also I doubt he is autistic dude was looking for an excuse for being unfunny and about as charismatic as a rotting opposum corpse cooking on the side of the road, also the afformentioned uncontrolled narcissism and long history of lying makes anything he claims suspect.
I doubt he has narcissism as much as you doubt he has autism. He doesn’t have a diagnosis. It’s just rumours. That’s not a good enough basis to be ableist. You’re forming stereotypes about narcissism based on a rumour based on stereotypes. It’s fucking xkcd citogenesis. You’re inventing your own truth whole cloth.
I’m addressing the trait of narcissism not the mental illness of narcissistic personality disorder. Two different things ones a mental illness and the other is being a maladaptive bitch who thinks they’re the center of the universe and everyone else is an NPC, I’ll give you that musk is definitely mentally fucked by multiple metrics but it ain’t ableist to point out that his mental issues are contributing to his political spiral. Just like how my mother’s abuse was made worse by her bipolar swings Musks Nazi tendencies were caused by his maladaptions and accelerated by his addiction.
Analysis requires acknowledgement of all factors and guess what to analyze Musk you have to factor in his mental instability. Mental illness often times often times works as an acceleratent for negative tendencies I know this from personal experience, both with my mother and my own issues since PTSD and autism is a right volatile mix.
Regardless I don’t feel like there’s any point in being not ableist to Musk, it’d probably piss him off. Treat him like the depressed little shit stain he is, maybe we will get lucky and he’ll decide to air out his skull with a 12 gauge slug.
Yep and if he’s controlling he’ll HATE that she’s not doing as he wants and living as the gender she was assigned at birth
His kids are all IVF because his penis got broken during vanity enlargement surgery. Balding, chinless, dickless wonder who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers. Respect to his daughter for being what she is, and not what he wants.
who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers.
Who else is he going to propagate his genes with? At least they get paid for their service?
I was kinda implying there’s shitty genes from both sides, when both parents are shitty…
if anyone wants to check your post history, i’d bet they’d agree that your mother wouldn’t be very proud of you.
I loathe Trumpists, russian orcs and Musk cucks. Of course YOU don’t like it !
yeah, that all totally sounds like me.
where the fuck did you get the idea that i’m totally different from everything i say?
Twitter likes are more important to him than the wellbeing of his daughter
Not even political ideology, she’s just trans.
I think this is innately a deeply personal issue to him - and he is now going to train the firepower of “the richest person on the planet” on everyone. thats where the politics and ideological alignment may come in.
one hell of a (sad?) real life “super-villain” origin story. the man needs mental help, and derision, but a lot of serious mental help.
The richest man in the world can buy anything except the love and admiration of his own child.
he WAS the richest, but last i saw, his personal net worth went down $200B! the largest loss of net worth ever. Keep it up guys and he’ll be in the gutter
He will never ever be in the gutter. I’m sure he has enough liquidity that he will be very wealthy no matter what his stock does, even if he couldn’t extract another penny out of his stocks somehow.
One man’s transphobia and horrible parenting is tearing this country to pieces. This is the worst possible timeline. I can’t even begin to imagine what his daughter is feeling right now.
She just did an interview and a
photoshopsPhotoshoot in Teen Vogue. Vivian said she’s not afraid of her father at all and that he’s pathetic (direct quote) and that he can go to hell (paraphrasing).The interview dropped this week so that’s probably why Musk is tweeting like a 12 year old role playing their vague concept of a bereft father.
photoshops
I assume you meant photoshoot…
Lioool yes I did
Country? You guys are going to start a world war.
It’s equally likely to devolve into civil war instead, in which case we contain the atrocities to the States
Yay
Agreed, but then amongst the vacuum Russia aims at Europe, China takes Taiwan, and off we go.
Europe needs to step the fuck up right now. Don’t they know that appeasement doesn’t work? Are they going to continue standing on the sidelines for years while Ukraine fights on their own?
They can also stop this war. Europe can take action. Lead the world while the US has its head up its own ass.
Europe does take action.
Also, Russia is in no state right now to start a military attack on Europe more than they already do right now (i.e., cutting undersea cables, troll farming and election manipulation etc.). Russia can’t handle Ukraine with half-assed support from Europe/US, how could they handle Ukraine plus the rest of Europe?
They (i.e., the Russian government) are a fucking joke and no threat to anyone.
You had me until last part. Belittling level of threat that Russia and its allies pose is not good. Not good at all. Belittling encourages apathy and sense of superiority, which we cant afford.
I recommend ”Autocracy, inc.” book from last year 2024 by Anne Applebaum (which won a pulitzer) to you, all americans, europeans and anyone who actually cares about democracy, human rights.
Sadly, Russia and its allies are no joke. They are a threat we must take seriously.
Thanks, I’ll check that out. My current perception of the issue is quite the opposite, though: Europe has been in a shock state, not knowing what to do, because they were scared of Russia. Nobody dared confronting them. Ukraine is one exception, and as it turned out, the Russian military (apart from their nukes of course) is a joke. Turkey did that a few years ago as well, when a Russian fighter jet entered their air space for a few seconds and they just shot it down.
My current reading of the situation is that the fear of Russia is more threatening than Russia’s actual power.
Ruzzia is one of Drumphs third world shitholes. Everyone squats over a latrine pit outside of Moscow and St Petersburg. They have the worst food in the world and all the men are addicted to anti-freeze vodka. The greatest cause of death is self immolation because the fuckers won’t stop smoking everywhere and even their own women loathe them because they’re all trying to marry western men. It’s a grey country full of corruption and racism. In the last 4 centuries they have had maybe half a dozen decent writers and musicians. And somehow, Pootang the Tiny thinks they need to export their “culture” LOL
fuck off, traditional Russian food is excellent. You just have the palate of a child.
It’s far from just the one man.
That’s absolutely true. I transitioned over a decade ago and have never had a problem until Republicans randomly decided that trans people were a target recently. A buddy of mine transitioned 35 years ago and he’s in absolute pieces over the state of the country right now. He was harassed just yesterday while taking a walk, because he’s out and proud in the neighborhood. I’m absolutely terrified to see how bad this will get.
You’re gonna die first, you cowardly drug addict bigot piece of shit.
He likes drugs and has no one to tell him “no.”
That’s a risky combination.
We should hook him up with Michael Jackson’s doctor.
And Kanyes dentist and Mathew Perry’s health guru
And Luigi’s hip iron.
God, I hope so.
Why do you think he’s wearing his others kid like body armour
Remind me, who’s the one saying people have _____ Derangement Syndrome?
Trans Derangement Syndrome. Fight the transphobia.
Also known as dead brain disease
He is a disgusting nazi and as any nazi should be taken out from the face of earth
This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.
That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.
If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.
Julius Streicher was indeed hanged, but Goebbels committed suicide… along with his wife… after killing their children…
Oh yeah he was one of the ones who knew he was doomed and did it himself
A coward to the end, unwilling to answer for the crimes he knew he committed.
And seriously what a sick fuck to even kill his kids. The allies weren’t going to punish his children.
Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*
This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.
Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.
Oh wow. If there was ever a Japanese take on something like RICO, “you have brought shame on your organization so all of your associates get punished” is probably the most Japanese one possible.
Fucking idiot killed his son himself.There was no “virus”. He went with “you’re dead to me”. Vivian said that this is who she is and he killed her for it. He’s the loser - she’s living her truth and he’s blind to who he really is. What a clown.
