I really wanted to like Firefly, but the characters felt too silly and two dimensional.
Firefly’s biggest weakness/strength is the dialog. It was wholly done in the Joss Whedon style and cadence. Every member of the main cast was “the snarky one”, every conversation was a series of verbal setups- and if it was against antagonists they’d be completely witless and walk into verbal traps, and every classic verbal trope would be lampshaded.
If you’ve watched enough of his previous shows it is very easy to predict how a conversation in Firefly will sound.
Back in the day that style of dialog was still somewhat novel, especially to people who weren’t big Buffy/Angel fans. Nowadays this is the baseline MCU style of dialog, which means it is absolutely played out.
I did like that style of dialogue, at the time, so idk if that was the problem for me.
It’s been a long long time since I saw it, so I don’t remember details only general impressions:
I remember thinking that every characters weren’t really differentiated. They were all just kinda amorphous, until an opportunity for their single defining trait had a change to come out for a bit.
Did you watch the one where the people die?
I only watched an episode or two. I don’t remember what order.
The Umbrella Academy: in the first couple of episodes like nothing happens and everyone is very sad.
You dodged a bullet. It just keeps getting worse until the final season which is the absolute worst
Such a shame too. The premise looked really interesting at first.
Yeah, last season was so boring and unsatisfying.
There were so many ways that show could have gone which would have been good.
You forgot…“stupid”
Like what the fuck was up with that Lila and five arc. Like seriously …what the fuck.
I liked up to the end of the season with the time travel where they all jumped to different times a few years apart. Think it was season 2. After that, i just didn’t feel the show was coherent or interesting.
Umbrella Academy was a hate watch for me. I loved the experience of watching it with my sister, even though I absolutely detested the show itself. Every single one of the characters is just the worst fucking person with zero redeeming qualities, and they somehow just get worse as the show goes on.
GoT… Too much rape as a plot device, and general subjugation of female characters.
Love… She was supposed to be the cool girl but she was just rude. I lost respect for the characters in episode 2.
Banshee. There’s only so many times you can watch a guy get the absolute piss bashed out of him
Walking Dead, House of the Dragon
Most of the adult animated shows (Rick and Morty, inside job, ect.) they’re like a 15 year olds idea of what adults are.
Stranger Things. Gave up after the first season. It just felt like the show was trying too hard to feel like something nostalgic from the 80s without any of the substance or writing the things from the 80s it was trying to mimic had.
Never got the appeal of these ones. They aren’t bad shows, but they did not do it for me.
Game of Thrones
Lost
Better Call Saul
Peaky Blinders
Breaking Bad
I lasted 5 minutes with Peaky Blinders. The loud music drowning out the dialogue did my head in.
This, plus The Sopranos, The Office, Parks & Rec, IASIP, 30 Rock, etc.
I get that they’re well liked, and they are the source of lots of meme material, but I could never manage to get through a whole episode.
I’ve never been able to make it through an entire episode of Community, for the same reason. It’s memeable, but I just don’t find it funny at all.
Shit. That’s exactly my list.
- I didn’t even watch GoT long enough to see Emilia Clark in the buff. But, then, I’d read the first two books and absolutely loathed them, and didn’t find the TV series improved the story much.
- I liked the first season of Lost, but the second felt like the writers were like, “oh shit… we got a second season? Shitshitshit…” Like they were just making it up as they went, and the writing and plot was just… bad.
- I didn’t watch BCS because I didn’t like
- Breaking Bad. I mean, I like scenes from BB, but the show itself suffered (for me) from this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety. Boardwalk Empires was another that used this mechanism, as did
- Peaky Blinders. Great writing. Great acting. But it’s just constant tension, and it’s simply not fun.
It’s like directors got ahold of this one technique and just beat it into every fucking show in the past decade. It’s tired, overused, and you’ll notice it’s a common trait of many of the shows you and agree on. You have to have tension, but I didn’t need every god damned minute to be wondering if someone’s going to get their throat graphically slashed with a straight-edge.
this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety.
Yup. I call it the “drama of paranoia,” and it’s exhausting after a while. It also gives you a veneer of “prestige” without having to make characters I give a shit about or plots that fit together at all. As a good example of a show that realized this, Mad Men always struggled with a certain early-season plotline until they finally just ripped off the band-aid and said,
spoiler
the “real” Don Draper’s widow handwaves something out with our boy Dick, and literally nobody else gives a shit.
What worked about that show had nothing to do with “ONE BIG SECRET.”
I’m not fond of the perpetual tension. Just awful.
Oh man! You just put to words why I couldn’t stand Breaking Bad, and Boardwalk Empire.
I watched the first simply because a lot of people love it, and I try to watch everything that seems worth seeing. The second I saw some clips from that I really liked, but then I just didn’t stick with the actual show.
In both cases, the series left me on constant edge, in a really bad way.
Now I realize that I kept waiting for the shows to grant me some kind of catharsis, but it just never happened. Or it happened rarely and in ways that quickly gets brushed away as inconsequential.
Y’all are trippin, the gus storyline in Better Call Saul/BB is likely my favorite villain of all time.
Fair enough though, I was scared I was gonna see these shows listed in here and here we are!
You’re still allowed to enjoy them.
How could I after this
Fair point. You probably shouldn’t like or enjoy things that other people subjectively don’t like.
My condolences.
I have watched any of those except the first couple of Breaking Bad. It was too real for me so I just couldnt.
Glee.
The pilot was good.
I didn’t last the first season and was certain it would be cancelled. I couldn’t have been more off the pulse.
You need to understand how much money the cover versions of pop songs were making on iTunes.
I lasted a while until the teacher groomed a student. Nope!
The sopranos. I got halfway through season 2 and decided I just didn’t give a shit about finishing it.
I feel like it was a show that was greatly helped by the once a week group viewing era.
Most anything in recently years, TBH. I always check out what’s popular with the reasoning that something about it has to be good if so many people like it, and it used to work out pretty well. Not so much in the last 5 or 6 years.
Have you tried Severance or Common Side Effects?
Common Side Effects
premise sounds nice, but I just tried watching the first episode and couldn’t get past the first minute. The artstyle is so… annoying? Hard to describe, but I absolutely can’t stand it
I liked common side effects, but I would rather have had s2 of scavenger’s reign.
Also kind of wish that common side effects was live action with animated elements, I think that would have been cool visually.
Can’t get past the trailers or previews. Awful.
The walking dead. A good show with high production value I will admit.
But I found it to be souless morbid and honestly disgusting.
Rick & Morty. Then the whole szechuan sauce thing happened and I can’t look at any content from that show without cringing. LOOK GUYS IM PICKLE RI-stop please it’s not funny.
I initially found that show a bit interesting, but I found myself feeling more and more cringey about what the show was churning out. I outgrew the whole thing just as the sauce thing was happening
It later became well known what an actual piece of shit Justin Roiland is, and I felt pretty glad not to have been stuck in that fandom still feeling like his work was of any importance to me.
Don’t even get me started about the SA scene(s?), especially the grape-man. I try not to judge people too harshly by their choice of mindless entertainment, but if you found that funny, or at least continue to find it funny, I don’t think I can take you seriously.
Really triggered my partners PTSD too, so I wasn’t surprised at all when the Rolland stuff came to light.
Is there even still any Rick and morty fans left in the wild? After the whole case against one of the voice actors I never see them around too much anymore.
I like Rick and Morty, but I have enough self awareness to know that Rick is not a role model.
My kid wanted to watch it together, and I was like, that’s fine as long as you let me tell you that Rick isn’t always right and he’s not the hero.
Yeah, it’s funny because of how terrible everyone is. I’m laughing because it’s outrageous, not because the characters are going through relatable hijinks.
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Justin Roiland wasn’t just the voice actor for Rick, Morty, and various other roles, he was the co-creator, writer, and executive producer of the show alongside Dan Harmon. The whole thing is very much Roiland’s baby, and even after it came out that he’s an abuser and predator and the show fired him it continues to be his celebrated legacy.
Fuck that guy and his stupid show.
Roiland is a co-creator, but it is very obvious that Dan Harmon took over the show for the better.
Hell, the takeover happened while Roiland was still voicing Rick, so it isn’t like something important was lost after Roiland was fired.
The “community” is insufferable, but the show is solid. You might like Solar Opposites. The wall substory is amazing. Really good voice actors, can feel the tension and emotions in the voices
The wall substory is a wild ride
There’s a few shows where the fan base have made it so insufferable that I don’t want to even watch the show . But Rick and Morty are King in this category, the worst fans
Sons of Anarchy
It’s basically a soap opera. Over the top and with no real direction. The writers were pretty much making it as they go using all the old tricks to keep you hooked.
I watched it until season 2. Before I started watching the season finale I realized I didn’t care how it ended and just dump it.
Kept with SoA until I tired of the “3 concurrent life-or-death crises” formula, with a new life-or-death crisis introduced each time an older one reached its end.
All principal characters even went to prison for a year, with no such crises for the rest of the MC, and then as soon as they got out, straight back to “3 concurrent life-or-death crises” as usual.
The rest of the MC should have realized “Hey, things were so chill when those guys were away, let’s get 'em sent back”.
I remember watching that show because people told me it’s good. I was kinda hooked in the first season, then i started to realise that everyone who told me the show was good, was coincidentally a woman. For some reason on youtube a video popped up that said: the ending of sons of anarchy is hilarious. So i watched it and i had to laugh so hard i could never go back to watch it.
I hated everybody in this show except for one person and then they killed them off in I believe the ending of season 1.
I agree with a lot of the shows listed. I loved TWD but after the Negan stuff, I was so incredibly bored that I gave up, couldn’t get into Parks and Rec. Tried 3 episodes before deciding it wasn’t for me, etc.
But the one show I haven’t seen listed yet is Supernatural. I was obsessed with that show for the first 5 seasons (which was how many the show creator wanted it to go on for) and then it just became so unbearable and ridiculous that I completely gave up by season 7. This one died, but not really. This one died and got brought back - 3 times. This one swapped bodies. This character is actually this character, but SIKE! it was THIS character all along!
Give me a break.
Then it went on for like 8 more seasons and I just cannot fathom that.
I watched 8ish seasons of Supernatural but none of them were good
First season (or two even) of Parks & Rec is not at all representative of the rest of the show.
Yeah, I tried P&R twice without it clicking for me. Only once I got past season 1 did I begin to enjoy it.
If you ever want to retry Parks and Rec, I highly suggest starting at second last episode of the second season (S02E23) - which is the episode where Rob Lowe and Adam Scott join and round out the cast.
If the show still doesn’t click for you then, then it’s definitely not going to - and you can ignore it forever more without any niggling doubts!
I’ll definitely keep that in mind! Thank you.
I watched Supernatural one or two seasons too long. The first five were great all around and then it got weird.
I remember the exact episode that I noped out of forever with Supernatural: when they brought in Snookie as a cross road demon cameo. Literally stood up and left my mom to watch the rest without me lol. I had already thought it sucked for a while though, yeah. I can tolerate season six okay, but it was definitely a very noticeable quality drop.
