• HubertManne
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    23 months ago

    What is an extroverted introvert? As a youth I was introverted and its still my nature but I found I liked drama and being in a chorus and debate type things as I got older but Im still more likely and more than happy to quietly sit and read or mess with a device or be with my thoughts in a group setting and ill at ease meeting people.

    • @[email protected]
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      33 months ago

      What is an extroverted introvert?

      It is a made up meme to explain the fact that almost no one is really extroverted or introverted. meyers-briggs, which is unscientific and was just made up by some dumbass who said “I think humans be like this”, says all people are either extroverts or introverts. But in reality, one’s level of extroversion or introversion depends heavily on environmental factors such as overall energy level or level of comfort with a particular person/group. To the extent that extroversion is a measurable, stable personality trait at all, when it is measured it fits a bell curve across the population - ie, the vast majority of people land smack dab in the middle of extroverted/introverted.

      So if you say you are an extroverted introvert, you’re just saying you’re a normal fucking person. It comes from people accepting Meyers-Briggs as hard fact (it isn’t), and then trying to fit this square peg into the round hole of their actual lived experience.

  • zewm
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    73 months ago

    What a weird way to say ambivert.

      • @[email protected]
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        23 months ago

        Nah, I’ll just take a tiny hit of meth. It will either work or I’ll have the whole place clean. Win win.

      • @[email protected]
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        283 months ago

        It’s not hard to get a test

        Even if money isn’t an issue, it’s actually really hard (particularly for someone with ADHD symptoms) to take the official test. It’s very Catch-22.

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          funny thing, I took my test in NZ where it’s cheaper and easier apparently, still cost a couple of thousand $NZ but I was given a bunch of forms to fill in… Found a quiet place to do them in time, read them and filled them in. then realised I’d not read them properly and had to request the forms be resent to complete a second time, this time body doubling with the misses to ensure I’d read and completed them appropriately.

          felt like it was part of the test

          can you read and fill in these forms by yourself? no, no I can’t…

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        103 months ago

        I have money but its a 3 year wait if you can convince a GP to refer you… so that’s still fun.

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          33 months ago

          See if you could just focus on your personal needs you’d be able to convince your GP to refer you

        • @[email protected]
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          23 months ago

          Holy shit, 3 years?

          My GP was doing a conference, her replacement was literally the person in the entire region in charge of this specific area.

          She said “we could do tests, but it would only eventually come across my desk to give the final stamp. You don’t need that. You have ADHD”

          I know I got lucky, but… Three years…

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          I got mine done by a clinical psychology master’s student supervised by their professor. It was half the price (and my insurance ended up covering 40%), no GP referral required. If anyone reading this has a college or university near them, check if they have that option. Added bonus is that the students are usually more up to date on current diagnostic criteria compared to someone who has been practicing in the field for a while.

          I also get my dental check ups done at the university dental school for the same reason.

        • @[email protected]
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          43 months ago

          I was able to convince my GP to get me a reference after my son was diagnosed. The diagnosis he got was for anything required from school. I got a waiting time of 10 years via the public system or 2 years via the private. My diagnosis could not entitle me for anything else than ‘better know myself’.

    • SigmarStern
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      133 months ago

      Exactly! I mean, my son has an autism diagnosis, and my wife has ADS, and my best friend has both, and I work in a field where almost everyone is diagnosed with something, but surely I am normal, because no one diagnosed me. Yet.

  • @[email protected]
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    63 months ago

    These days I think of myself as extrovert but most people think the opposite. Sometimes I wonder if anybody even is absolutely one or the other at all times and circumstances.

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      23 months ago

      My cousin is certified extrovert. She basically always „needs“ someone to talk to on family gatherings. I think she’s fine being alone, but if there’s a person she will talk to them.

      If there’s someone telling a story and she’s not too invested she will open a parallel conversation.

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      Sometimes I wonder if anybody even is absolutely one or the other at all times and circumstances.

      Well, absolutely not. I thought it’s pretty obvious that this is more like a scale were you fall somewhere between one and the other. Also, those words don’t really have any rigorous definitions.

  • Coelacanth
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    13 months ago

    I got diagnosed with both later in life, but I am definitely more on the introverted side of things. Maybe an introvert leaning ambivert at most.

  • @[email protected]
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    143 months ago

    Are those separate things or is there a connection?

    Like:

    I’m curious, how many “Hawaiian pizza eaters” found out they had adhd or autism later in life?

    • @[email protected]
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      93 months ago

      Yes, how you socialize and how much it drains you are affected by whether or not you’re autistic and/or ADHD.

      People who are naturally outgoing but also autistic/ADHD have the same drive to go out and interact with people, but due to differences in how they act/perceive the world wind up much more drained from the experience (either from sensory overstimulation or anxiety from people being unpredictable). This often leads to seeking out socialization less, even though they are just as desperate for it as anyone else who is naturally more extroverted.

      And instead of typing up a paragraph every time they want to talk about it, they say introverted extrovert.

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    I am in this, but I got tested and I’m “normal” even though in my 20s I’m pretty sure I would have been in the very high ranges.

    I’d still say I have an ADHD brain with OCD tendencies, but I’ve managed to moderate both through a decade of exercise, caffeine, and sugar.

    (Anecdotal, N=1) I think once your brain realizes in some sense that it can be productive despite its neuroses, the extremes peter out once the stress of your failures no longer hang over you.

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      63 months ago

      There are a bunch of different definitions people use for introversion/extroversion. “Extroverted introvert” means you’re extroverted by one definition and introverted by a different one.

      • Primer - Zip
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        93 months ago

        This is my best friend to a T. Recently diagnosed with ADHD as well.

        • @[email protected]
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          153 months ago

          I swear I will get officially diagnosed and medicated this year. I know I’ve said it for about a decade, but this is the year, lol.

          • @[email protected]
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            33 months ago

            Found a doctor that was just like “oh yeah. You definitely have ADHD. Let’s get you some meds”

            After like 10 years of referrals that I either never went to follow up on or got pushed away from I finally got medicaded.

            It literally took luck because I was always just so demotivated by the whole process. They literally make it the most difficult for people with ADHD to actually get to the point of talking to someone. While people that just want Adderall can easily navigate it with their executive function fully functioning.

            It’s rough. Good luck mate.

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      23 months ago

      I’m a huge introvert, but if I can get past the initial hurdle of getting my ass motivated to actually meet with people, I have a good time. I’ve also been in sales/public facing jobs for most of my working life, which blows people away when they realize how antisocial I can be. I mask very well.

      Most of the time, it’s how much juice is left in my social battery that dictates what I end up doing. I will avoid my best friends of 20+ years if I’m not in the mood.

    • @[email protected]
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      193 months ago

      It’s a way of describing that a person is willing to join social interaction, but also enjoys alone time

      • Obinice
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        413 months ago

        Isn’t that everyone, more or less? We all need a balance between spending time with others, and time by ourselves.

        If I don’t get an appropriate amount of both on a regular basis I go crazy.

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          33 months ago

          Somewhat, but specifically a sociable person who ultimately needs alone time to recharge (or time just with their partner). Some people need social interaction as their recharge, and they might not be great in their own company for too long.

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          Its just another weird way people who are not specialists try to divide and label everyone for no clear reason to fit into their binary world, I just don’t like how its being used. There is too much simplification and generalization while every person is unique. Not saying such things as introvert/extravert should not exist, I just don’t like how its being interpreted in mass/social media

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          Most of ADHD is just “isn’t that everyone” symptoms but to a much greater and often disabling degree.

          It’s why memes and stereotypes are usually relatable to a lot of people. I wouldn’t say it’s an inaccurate thing to say. But it’s definitely too generalizing.

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      113 months ago

      Ive always referred to myself as a social introvert. Ill go to social events, have fun, but boy is it exhausting and id rather spend time home alone doing nothing

    • Binette
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      73 months ago

      I think it’s someone who is actually extroverted, but do to being cast out as “weird”, is now reluctant to talk to people despite their extraversion, and therefore thinks they’re introverted.

      This describes my case perfectly. I am extroverted, but due to people finding me weird, I was scared of talking to people, and mistook it for introversion. I am now way more outgoing than before once I figured it out, and people care a bit less about you being weird if you’re likeable once you’re older.

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        53 months ago

        It might also be the other way around. There are plenty of people who are really introverted, so social engagement still drains their energy, but while it’s happening, they can be/appear extroverted, charming, outgoing, sometimes at exponential extra cost.

        The difference between intro- and extraversion is not simply the ability of a person to talk to others, their (perceived) “shyness” etc., but also encompasses how they regenerate, what and how much stimulation they prefer and what kind of company they need and enjoy.

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    I learned that being chatty and introverted are not mutually exclusive long before I got my diagnoses. Just because I can, and will, tell my server they got my order wrong when it’s wrong doesn’t mean I am an extrovert. It means I am high and not feeling socially anxious and I really want my burger the way I asked.

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    33 months ago

    I used to call myself an introvert with extrovert tendacies and so ya, I’m in this meme lol.