CJMusic Oct 7, 2023:
Joe Biden is the worst US president in history.
CJMusic Jul 6, 2024:
It would appear that, in light of Biden failing and floundering, the Dems sent their minions out to foment panic about Project 2025. It won’t work.
CJMusic May 1, 2025:
I regret voting for Trump.
My husband is laid off and can’t find a job and my kids’ credit scores have tanked bc of his student loan policy.
This is not what I voted for.
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Good. Each day I grow happier and happier seeing them get what they voted for. I’d like to think they’ve learned their lesson and will never do it again, but quite frankly I’ve had goldfish with longer attention spans than MAGAts. Only way this sticks to grind them down for a while.
“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
Sorry, psychopaths. You elected him president. After he showed everyone exactly who he was. The why doesn’t matter. He’ll continue to be who he’s always been, but now he’s actively making the world worse…
“This is not what I voted for.”
I voted for him to hurt immigrants, the poor, the gays, women, workers, non-whites, Democrats, progressives, liberals, intellectuals, drag queens, the woke, and DEI, not white Americans!
workers,…not white Americans!
None of them include workers in that list, because most of them are white Americans, but are also workers. The whole point is “I want them to hurt people who are not like me, not people who are me!”
Most of them don’t understand that unless they have million dollar yachts that they use as tenders for their billion dollar yachts that they are the “poor” that Trump and the oligarchs tearing apart the US government don’t want their tax dollars going to support.
and DEI
White women getting pissed about DEI is the craziest to me because they’re the ones that benefited the most from DEI.
Rhetoric has shaped their perspective. They don’t know what DEI is.
For everything the conservatives are bad at, they are somehow crazy good at messaging.*
Their ability to take a positive term, redefine it as something it isn’t, and use it as a hammer is impressive. The reality of “getting rid of DEI” clearly means more discrimination and hiring/firing based on race/sex/etc, but they certainly framed it as “best candidate instead of minority preference”.
This is a repeating trend. Fake news, Critical race theory, woke, cancel culture, marxism, radical left, et – these are all good examples of the right redefining and hijacking terms or language. It wouldn’t surprise me if they try to do it with the word “democracy” to mean something like “far left woke Democrat ideals”.
* Just to clarify – “good at messaging” just meaning that it’s effective at being taken up and repeated by a subset of the population. How people listen to and trust the stuff is beyond me.
they are somehow crazy good at messaging.*
They are good at messaging because their base is so monolithic. For the most part, it’s religious (mainly christian/protestant/catholic/whatever), straight, white people. There’s so much common ground among them that you can pick a couple issues and make a boogeyman out of them. They’ve been doing it for years. Abortion was a big one, then it was same sex marriage, then it was immigrants, then it was transgender people. Not to mention the cable news propaganda arm that feeds them the lies. But for democrats, the base is so wide that it becomes hard to cater a message that applies to everyone. So there’s positions that you have to take that don’t apply to your entire base and sometimes that ends up fragmenting them and making it hard for people to get out and vote because people vote on their own self interest. Its why it was so frustrating when people were going to not vote for Kamala because of views on Palestine as if 1) Trump was going to be any better and 2) as if that was the only policy that mattered. Democrats need to stop trying to reach the other side of the aisle and reach the people that agree with them and get them out to vote by having inspiring candidates, not just milquetoast politicians that are going to try and be moderate. If the right takes 10 steps further right and democrats take 2 steps right to try and appeal to them, the middle ground has now moved further right which isn’t inspiring to your supporters on the left. And then you start to alienate them.
Everything about conservative American women was explained in Dworkin’s Right Wing Women.
Women who grow up in shitty sexist communities (eg, imagine being a teenage girl growing up in fucking Disney, Oklahoma.) You have no future. You are supposed to find a guy to marry yourself off to. You are promised this is the greatest thing ever, taught to fantasize about your wedding, to imagine you’re happily ever after.
Then you get married to some guy. Maybe he’s great, maybe he’s not. But you never got to be a person. You were never taught that you could be something more. You feel bitter and powerless in your community - you’ll never be the deacon, but you’ll always be cleaning up after the potluck.
But then you see other women who don’t have to live like that. This is a societal threat to these communities. That there are clearly women in the world who are happy and fulfilled in an office or a field, while you will never be anything more than a church secretary or PTA mom.
So the propaganda is always that these women are lying. They aren’t actually happy. They aren’t actually competent - they only got their jobs through “DEI.” They aren’t better than you, it’s a liberal plot.
This is also connected to the fear routine - see how the right wing women sphere is the TERFs. They whip up a history to aim the real anxieties and fears related to a culture that covers up sexual violence against women (how many youth pastors have we never heard about?) and redirects it to an acceptable target. Women who perform this well enough are even rewarded with having their voice recognized - that Phyllis Schafly made a career of telling other women to not have careers, that Rowling has defined the exclusion of trans women as a prime most important feminist feat (while women in the US die of lack of access to reproductive health care…)
They don’t benefit from DEI because they’ve been told not to want careers, and they are mad at the wrong people.
If thats true it just reinforces that people can’t think/reason and Cipolla was right about stupidity - A stupid person is someone will harm even themselves, even when trying to harm others (the very definition of this sub I guess)
and if there are so many conservatives like that, then John Stuart-Mill was right in saying stupid people are attracted to being conservative.
That doesn’t mean all conservatives are stupid, it just means that if you’re are stupid, you’re likely to be conservative and as Cipolla also points out there are a lot of stupid people.
Their husbands told them that they should be pissed so they are pissed.
This person knew what Project 2025 was and just refused to believe it. This is exactly what they voted for.
What’s even worse was the people on the left disparaging those who were warning about Project 2025 as paranoid and hysterical.
Any examples of this?
It’s hard to find old news but here is something like it: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/project-2025-fact-checking-democrats-misleading-and-overly-dramatic-claims/ar-BB1pXx9b
The Young Turks were an example though I don’t have a specific link. There was plenty of pooh-pooing from the center left.
They thought they were voting for a power fantasy but that’s not what they were actually voting for.
They were voting for a power fantasy, they just didn’t realize it wasn’t their fantasy.
This is not what I voted for
“I voted for other people to suffer, and now I’m suffering. Is there no fairness in this world?”
Either that, or:
“When Donald Trump mentioned what a fine man Hannibal Lecter is before shuffling around to the YMCA, my brain registered that as him telling me everything that I wanted to hear because I’m a delusional psychopath with no grip on reality that thinks the world revolves around me.”
The Hannibal Lecter thing drives me nuts, because Trump clearly heard someone mention immigration from political asylum and confused that with mental asylums.
I wish the press would have picked up on it and called him out.
I’m pretty sure he praised OJ Simpson at some point in the middle of all of that as well. He was also very concerned about offshore wind farms killing whales in record numbers. And there was that one incident where he just stood around on stage saying and doing nothing for an hour while golden oldies played.
The press was too busy printing headlines about Trump calling Biden “sleepy Joe” though. And honestly I’m not sure if an honest and fair press would’ve even helped in this case. It would’ve just been librul deep state propaganda. And they would’ve just gone on with their decorative diapers, foam fingers and Trump bibles regardless.
It wouldn’t have helped. You can go online and see all of the semi reasonable convesations with trump supporters out in public and the all want to hold on to the idea he is a good, sane choice. They never accept the evidence. They just reluctantly shrug.
Some people can’t see the train coming until they get hit by it.
Big Smoke: Look the fuck out, CJ! The train
idk man. there are a lot that i dont think will ever get it.
He was never concerned about offshore wind turbines in any serious way.
He just didn’t like that they were an eyesore to his Scottish golf course.
That’s it. That’s the only reason.
And then you had those peasants who refused to sell their land adjacent to it. Who wants to see a peasant dump when you play golf on the best golf course in Scotland? Why can’t we just kill them like Longshanks would have done?
I wish the press would have picked up on it and called him out.
There are so, so, so many instances of this. If they’d picked up on a few more we wouldn’t be in this mess. But they ignored them all because they’re complicit in all of this.
They did this with Reagan, but Reagan was smarter than Trump, and understood the rules of common decency, even if he was just as callous, and indifferent. He didn’t bite that hand that fed him, and knew his place. He was a “face,” and knew it. Reagan could be controlled. Trump cannot, even if most of his actions benefit his masters. So far, Trump has been a useful idiot for the billionaire’s goals, but he’s losing his mind, and let his latest election think he’s God.
There’s a reason these billionaire funded think tanks target frustrated and failed entertainers. Failed script writers, actors, stand up comedians, musicians. They all crave success, adulation, power, and most importantly… money. Which the billionaires have falling out of their asses.
They’re all narcissists. Seriously, look into the past ambitions of people like Shapiro, Walsh, Pool, Owens, Crowder, Rogan, etc. All failed entertainers, or entertainment adjacent. It makes a lot of sense to enlist these people.
And then you have insignificant “intellectuals,” who never made groundbreaking discoveries, like Jordan, and those two brothers I can’t remember the names of, and don’t care to find out. You know the ones. They crave adulation, power, and money, too. More narcissism.
That’s also who the base is. Mediocre people who couldn’t thrive but are pissed about it
It’s usually the dumbest, most infantile reason with him. He just negotiated rare earth materials with Ukraine, and he’s after them again in Greenland. I’m starting to think he wants them because they literally have “rare” in the name.
It all boils down go “I voted for them to hurt people” and then they act surprised when they’re the ones being hurt.
Time for the ye olde rugged individuals to pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Regret, that’s a start.
Vote republican, and have a worse life
I don’t get why people haven’t learned that one yet
Because they think that one day soon, they’ll own the boot and be the ones doing the stomping.
Republicans never consider themselves to be poor, they’re just “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” who are gonna make it any day now. Just you wait, any day now they’ll win the lottery, or get an inheritance, or…
Fry: “yeah that’ll show those poor!”
Leela: “but Fry, why are you cheering? you aren’t rich.”
Fry: “True, but someday I might be. Then people like me better watch their step!”
How would someone who is convinced they are a temporarily embarassed millionaire learn a lesson like that.
Conservatives always think they’re part of the in-group… until they’re not.
“Because he hates the people I hate. 'Murica!”
Blame shifting by the people that they believe they should trust.
“The democrats caused this mess”
“If the democrats were in power, they would do way worse than this”
“This is temporary pain to prevent the democrats from ruining EVERYTHING”
“Heil HitlerTHE DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL NAZI FASCISTS!!!”THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL NAZI FASCISTS!!!”
Yup, like the time that Biden Sieg Heiled. oh wait…
This is the strategy that the obscenely wealthy have used since the dawn of time.
Manipulate the peasants to blame each other, instead of them. Throw the peasants some bones to make us appear concerned, altruistic, and benevolent. The reason Roman emperors gave the plebes free bread every day, and held the “Games” to keep them from rioting.
Today, it’s American Idol, sports, reality TV, YouTube, TikTok, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses
Juvenal originally used it to decry the “selfishness” of common people and their neglect of wider concerns. The phrase implies a population’s erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority.
Juvenal was born rich. I think he may have had a bias against the plebes.
Because it’s a better life for rich people, and that’s what they’re going to be any day now!
Womp womp
If Trump actually falls out of favor with the Right I fully expect these kinds of people to try to blame all of this on him alone so they check the box for the next R who will enable them to continue to be shitheads.
That’s how they got over Bush II very quickly too.
Yeah, my friends from 20 years ago that fucking LOVED Bush now pretend they want nothing to do with him. Trump will be the same way. Set a reminder for 2045 to ask your favorite Republican what they think of Trump.
Get them on video now while they’re still excited
Oh, these modern Republicans think that Reagan was a cuck, and Jesus is a woke pussy.
I remember sitting there, being embarrassed that W was the face of our country. I was thinking to myself, how did we let this happen, policy aside, he’s really not a capable president and its horrific in speaking.
G’DAM if i don’t miss that whyly bastard. I’d rather have someone with some actual moral values, but jesus i don’t know how much worse it could get.
whyly
Wily?
This admin is making Lil Bush and the gang look like a dream team.
Me, My, and I.
Conservative? Of course.
0 sympathy to anyone who voted for the continuation of the genocide. Oh boohoo you got laid off, oh no wont somebody think of your credit score. You are getting but a fraction of what you deserve.
