I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.

That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.

I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.

Edit: Plenty of personal attacks, but no legitimate answers! Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?

  • @[email protected]
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    May-be not talking about trans agenda and transgenderism would make your post feeling less bigoted, and more open for discussion.

    And in general denying basic human rights to people no matter the reason sucks

  • haui
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    It’s been a long time that I’ve seen an actual fascist on here. Probably just another rage bait account. Fuck off. Thanks.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      52 months ago

      Pretty sure we’re not allowed to criticize transgenderism on reddit.

      Twitter is a different format.

      Neither is decentralized.

      Also, people aren’t assholes just because they’re not loyal to transgender beliefs. You’re not helping the cause when you try to invalidate their views.

      • @[email protected]
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        302 months ago

        No, they’re assholes. And their views aren’t worth validating. Shouldn’t be platformed or even entertained as much as I’ve entertained yours.

        So ill say it plain and leave it at this. Fuck off back to the Klan rally. Cunt.

          • @[email protected]
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            132 months ago

            May as well just cut off your ears at this point because a lot of people are going to be very rude to you anywhere you try to spout this shit outside of the Klan rally the commentor mentioned.

            Stop worrying about what’s in other people’s pants, you’ll have a much more relaxed life.

          • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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            You started this thread with hostility and rudeness, what exactly did you expect?

          • @[email protected]
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            242 months ago

            The fact that you include terms like “trans agenda” and “transgenderism” in your post are pretty clear indications that you’re not serious about avoiding rudeness.

      • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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        But they are acting like assholes when they say things like “trans hysteria”. Combative and dismissive behavior is jerk behavior, so if you don’t want people to call you one, don’t act like one.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 months ago

    instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.

    The agenda of being able to exist?

    What other “agenda” do you think they have?

    • @[email protected]OP
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      42 months ago

      Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?

      I’d be much more willing to answer your questions if I was confident that my replies wouldn’t be censored for disagreeing with you.

      • reddwarf
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        You are being dishonest. You were just now basically invited to discuss but chose to ignore that and immediately assume a defense position of “not being confident”.

        Chances are you will take this post as an example of being oppressed of an opinion as well.

        If you are sincere then engage with the person asking a question.

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            So you still choose to be dishonest. And a liar. If you want to take “it elsewhere” then that suggests you know of such a place, a thing you keep asking for. But seem to know about it?

            I am now convinced you are a social experiment; possibly AI driven or as a biological entity.

            Take this exactly as you think how I might mean this.

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        Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?

        Again:

        What kind of criticism?

        Like I can criticize my friend for not recycling, no one will complain. If I say they shouldn’t be allowed to exist because of an immutable physical characteristic, I’d be a horrible fucking person.

        So what exactly do you want to criticize besides their right to exist?

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          Again:

          I’d be much more willing to answer your questions if I was confident that my replies wouldn’t be censored for disagreeing with you.

          Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism? If you can’t answer this, then you can just move on to another thread.

          • ElcaineVolta
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            we’ve found the most fragile person on the platform, fuck off back to twitter.

          • @[email protected]
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            122 months ago

            So…

            You won’t say what you want to say, until I tell you a place it’s allowed to be said?

            Do you legitimately and truthfully not understand how that’s impossible?

            How is anyone supposed to know where you can say something if you won’t tell them what you want to say?

            Logically. How is anyone ever going to be able to answer your question?

            • @[email protected]OP
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              12 months ago

              Alright well, this is a waste of time.

              I’m just going to ignore you and move on since you’re clearly not here to answer the thread’s question.

              • @[email protected]
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                82 months ago

                I’m just going to ignore you

                If you were ignoring people, you wouldn’t be responding to them saying “I’m ignoring you”.

                Does that make sense?

                To ignore someone, you simply ignore them. I can’t think of a simpler way to explain that…

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    Well you seem to consider it a “hysteria” and a “trans agenda”, so I don’t think you would welcome any actual discussion. Or that you care at all either way.

    If you really want to discuss the question of what gender really is, does it exist, and how this messy stuff of being a human functions, there are much better ways to open a discussion.

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        Most of them. There are a couple of crazy ones, but mostly don’t be an asshole and I doubt many would ban you for expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception. You would get downvoted a lot though.

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          Can you share some examples?

          Based on what I’ve seen and experienced, most communities do not allow criticism of transgenderism and will ban anyone for “expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception.”

          • @[email protected]
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            You have a chance to run an experiment.

            Know your audience. A lot of people here are trans or trans-adjacent. Imagine if you were speaking to a room full of trans people. What would you say to convince them to accept their birth gender? Or at least not be booed out of the room.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              22 months ago

              We could probably have this discussion in a community that allows criticism of transgenderism.

              • Swordgeek
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                We can have it RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. Nobody is censoring you, but you refuse to engage in the debate you claim you can’t post about.

              • ArchEngel
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                Is the conversation not happening right here and now? You have been given an offer to speak and it feels a bit like you are shutting it down yourself. It feels like you are concerned that it will not go over well.

                I believe that trans people have a right to live and thrive, just as anyone does. To me the question feels like “should we let people with brown hair exist?” “All those brownies are trying to make us all have brown hair!”

              • @[email protected]
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                You are just begging the question, troll. Get out of here with your doubly dishonest “discussion”. Holy fuck, obvious troll.

                • @[email protected]
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                  Nah, I checked the user’s history before engaging, they (heh) seem to be honestly convinced. But I don’t think even they can explain where their fear of trans people comes from.

          • @[email protected]
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            292 months ago

            Your opinion is being allowed right here and now. But because you suck, you’re being criticized and down voted.

  • @[email protected]
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    You’re not being censored, you just have a shitty and unpopular take. Go back to whatever cess pit you crawled out of. Bigots will not find support here.

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    Who else fucking behaves like this?

    Imagine asking a black person why you can’t simply have a discussion over their right to exist, their right to be treated with the same respect we treat others.

    Fucking trans agenda.

    Fuck off you fucking cunt.

  • @[email protected]
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    The fact that this post and your answers are still up are, in itself, the proof that criticism of (sigh) « transgenderism » is accept here.

    However you look like you dont understand how a conversation is working if you’re spewing hate and do the cry baby when we point out that you’re spewing hate you don’t want a conversation, you want people that will say you’re right which you are not

  • @[email protected]
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    262 months ago

    Were you really looking for honest discussion? If you posted without inflammatory language and a combative attitude, you may have started an actual dialogue. But you didn’t.

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    You keep demanding an answer to your question, so I will give you one.

    I am not aware of any instances that allow or encourage discussions based on a position of bigotry and intolerance.

    To be clear, you present your question in bad faith, and demand good-faith responses only. You claim that calling bigotry is censorship, and that intolerance is a valid stance in a discussion. You also repeatedly refuse to acknowledge that we are in fact having the discussion right here about your opinions on transgender issues.

    EDIT: In fact, you are actively refusing to engage in the discussion you claim to be impossible. Pretty clear now that you’re just a troll - an oblivious troll.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 months ago

    I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.

    Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?

    Looks like the answer you got was “not here” and you can’t accept that.

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    If you are willing to be respectful and discuss ideas in good faith then there are lots of communities to choose from. Here are two off the top of my head:
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    If you want to broaden your perspectives and have discussions with actual trans people you could try [email protected]

    However, it is clear that you are searching for a guaranteed safe space to say something that you aren’t comfortable voicing out loud, even on an anonymous forum. We have all seen this show before, hence the comments you are getting. If you want a radical free speech space to say anything without consequences then Lemmy isn’t your platform.

    There. Now you can stop complaining that nobody will answer your question. Go do something more productive with your day.

    • yyyesss?
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      thank you for this thoughtful, clear, and definitive answer to the question.

  • Leraje
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    You’re a bigot who is on a platform that doesn’t tolerate bigotry. Off you fuck.