Donald Trump was deliberately left in the dark about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strike in Russia on Sunday, which destroyed nearly a third of the Kremlin’s strategic bomber fleet in a surprise attack.
The large-scale drone attack saw a fleet of drones scattered all across Russia carry out simultaneous attacks on five airbases, wiping out 40 irreplaceable military bombers worth an estimated $7 billion, which have been used to reign terror upon Ukrainian civilians.
“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan and was personally overseen by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told CBS News.
Good. He’d have fucking spilled the beans
He would have literally called Putin and tried to make a ‘deal’ the second he heard any plans
I don’t like this planet anymore 👍
Probably sounds better in Ukrainian but “Operation Spider-web” is still fucking badass
Apparebtly, it is Операція “Павутиння”… it sounds pretty badass to me
Why would a sovereign country, being attacked by a hostile neighbor, be required to inform ANYONE about their war plans? I wouldn’t inform anyone, even my friends. They’ll see it on the news, like everyone else.
And the operation turned out to be a complete success! Looks like a good strategy going forward.
Not one person on this entire site can tell me anyone should trust tRump in ANY situation, let alone one where he has leverage over you and interest in… your stuff. Expect more of this by the way; turns out when you’re a constant asshole to everyone, nobody wants to be around you or rely on you, let alone offer to extend help in your direction. I’m honestly baffled what people fucking expected, only brainrotted simps believe in the real adult world, on the global stage, you can twist everyone’s arms to get your way without consequence forever. And only tRump can’t see this cause that’s been his ENTIRE life: No consequences ever for being the absolute worst person regarding character and conduct.
Oh, is that why it was such an effective attack?
Trump isn’t involved
Why inform Putin’s Bitch?
As is appropriate.
I’m trying to recall a disco song from, I believe, the 1970s whose lyrics in the chorus went somewhat like the following - though I might be mistaken:
“That’s the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh”
Not totally sure of the relevance, but you’re thinking of K.C. & The Sunshine Band’s 1975 That’s the Way (I Like It).
Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?
Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.
Even at the height of WW2 the Allies kept secrets from each other. Churchill had no idea the US had the Atom Bomb until it was deployed.
To be fair, the US thought that there were spies at Los Alamos, and they were right.
This seems like a great place to plug Feynman’s talk Los Alamos From Below
Hmm must have missed this one. Thanks, I’ll take a note.
“Stallion Gate” by Martin Cruz Smith. Fun novel about Oppenheimer’s Native driver.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/stallion-gate-martin-cruz-smith/120696?ean=9780345310798&next=t
This isn’t exactly true. The British were well aware of the Manhattan Project- indeed, the whole thing began as the British Tube Alloys project before they ran out of money and convinced the Americans to take it on, with the British delegation taking prominent roles.
Britain also knew that the bomb was ready for use as the US didn’t have any bomb bay mounts strong enough to hold the weight, and they had to ask the RAF to supply a small number of mounts that had been designed for Barnes-Wallace’s 10,000kg earthquake bombs.
The big difference is that an atomic bomb would still be useful once it is revealed while this would likely be significantly less effective.
There’s going to be a bit of contextual nuance when deciding whether to share intelligence and when. I’d bet if we had a respectable statesperson friendly to Ukraine’s plight leading this country we would have gotten a few days notice at least.
You are confusing nations with people. You can’t trust a nation (or any other organization), you can only trust individuals because an organization can always contain individuals of diametrically opposed behaviors.
in a trusting ally relationship this would probably be fairly normal. In this case especially since the US is providing a lot of intel.
Intel is very different from secrets. Secrets can be blown wide open if they are leaked by one person.
To Ukraine or Russia?
I’d be surprised if Ukraine isn’t feeding Trump false info to see if Russia reacts to it
Dont know about false, but a good mix of low priority targets.
Dantooine. Zelenskyy is on Dantooine.
Far to remote to make an effective example.
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“Deliberately blindsided” is a little strong. We’re not even officially an ally of Ukraine. They don’t owe us, or anyone else jack shit as far as their war plans for defending their country. Add to that the fact that Trump is credibly accused of being a Russian asset and defers to their interests 99% of the time… Why the fuck would you trust us right now!?
Yeah, frankly I think it wouldn’t even be good to tell Biden about it, he would likely discourage from that move. At best he would pretend he did not know about it.
aparently that’s what they have been doing. This attack was in the works for quite a while
Biden supplied Ukraine with long range missiles even while Putin was sabre rattling nukes.
I would not tell Krasnov jack shit about any military operation.
What a rubbish article. Complete non-story.
Plans love silence.
And it’s never been truer. Doesn’t even matter who sits in White House, strictly Ukrainian business that had to pass through as little ears as possible.
Considering Trump is a Russian asset, that was a smart move to keep him out of the loop.
Was this proven by the way?
Not in any official manner
Only by actions. If he were a Russian asset, what would he be doing differently?
If it walks like a goose and smells like shit…
*steps like a goose
They need to false flag him next time
I’m struggling to think of how that would work. Have a Ukrainian agent pretend to be his Russian handler?
In reality, Trump’s biggest use to Zelensky is for strategic disinformation. Occasionally “leak” info to Trump, knowing it will get passed directly to Russia.
, Trump’s biggest use to Zelensky is for strategic disinformation. Occasionally “leak” info to Trump, knowing it will get passed directly to Russia.
That was what I meant, have Zelenskyy say they will do X and then russia preps for that, and then do Y
There is nothing anyone should discuss with Cheeto, he is dumb and works for russians. There is absolutely no value in that person, he is a completely worthless useless being.
Correction… he works only for himself.
That’s what Putin wants him to think
He’s worse than worthless, he’s actively harmful
Yeah you don’t typically tell the enemy about your secret attack plans
You don’t sound qualified to be the secretary of defense. Here, this bottle might help with that.
/s.
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