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Actually, the constitution IS ambiguous in how it defines war. If it weren’t so ambiguous, presidents wouldn’t be able to take advantage of the War Powers Act so easily - as they have done for decades.
The US hasn’t declared war since WWII despite both red and blue presidents dropping untold bombs since then. The hubbub about Trump unilaterally carrying out “military action” is less about scary orange man, and more about an executive branch that has been concentrating power for decades under red and blue presidents alike. This, like many other things, is something that leftists have been sounding alarm bells about for ages.
Stop elevating the Constitution. It is an extremely weak, vague, and antiquated document that was written almost exclusively by 20 something, white, enslaving, landowing white males. I know of no other constitution that explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people. The US constitution is an embarrassment, and its no surprise its getting torn to shreds once the first unabashedly fascist shows up.
Read a great article, over a decade ago, outlining how Congress has steadily given the Executive more and more power under every administration and every Congress. It had dates and links to every single event. Wish I could find that again.
Really it’s surprising it took this long.
Pepperidge Farms remembers “police action” in Vietnam
“Vietnam, stop resisting!”
We haven’t followed that law in so long though
Impeach Trump #NOKINGS
You know, that technically, when he violated his oath of office the first time, he resigned from his position. Once you violate your oath of office you no longer hold that office. You can do whatever you want to him, worse case scenario you have to wait for a pardon
I wish the law worked that way, but there is no technicality that violating an oath of office triggers a resignation. Resignation is resignation.
If anything, the interpretation of “official acts” by the Supreme Court explicitly shields him. He cannot be held legally responsible for any decision carried out as president, which is terrifying.
- 🔫 the only way he will be held responsible and accountable.
Don’t miss next time.
Yeah but these laws are only meaningful if they’re enforced
Meaningful laws for thee, laughable pretense for me
I asked Merrick Garland if Trump had done anything wrong and he just shrugged and said “There’s no way for us to know for sure so we didn’t want to take any chances by pressing charges.”
Four years later, I feel like he made the right call. Imagine if the Biden DOJ had actually tried to press charges on Trump. Just imagine… I think we can all agree that their prudence and restraint really helped the US dodge a bullet.
I’ve never looked at it from that perspective. Now that I’ve tried, my nose and ears are bleeding, so that’s gotta be a good thing, right?
Oooh! Hey ask him where our fucking unredacted Mueller Reports are.
Lmao had to read it a few times. Ty
Went thru the same shit with Bush 20 years ago.
Indeed. Congress had 20 years to put up some guard rails, but didn’t.
I mean I’m not sure what to say to anyone that still thinks the Constitution is something the United States actually adheres to.
It’s null and void the minute it gets violated at the highest levels of government with no repercussions and we’ve already crossed that line multiple times.
The Constitution is not valid anymore. The first step is to accept that fact. We’re not going to get anywhere endlessly debating a document that isn’t taken seriously by the ones capable of enforcing its mandates.
That’s not a war ! That’s a 3 days military special operation !
-Russian Trump alter ego
This is literally the argument behind our indefinite occupation of South Korea. We’ve been doing a limited policing action for over 70 years. And every two years, the Congress gets a chance to vote on the NDAA that authorizes us to continue deploying troops over there. Every two years, Congress gives it a big old rubber stamp.
Same with the Philippines. Same with Thailand. Same with Cuba. Same with Iraq. Same with… well… easier to just show the picture.
Will there be a January 7 at the White House ?
Diaper Don gonna order brown people to get bombed so he 'looks like a tough man".
Fuck that guy and everyone who voted for him. Or chose not to vote. Fuck you even more.
“Looks like a tough man”. Is this really the level of political comprehension we’re working with? No wonder you idiots elected a fascist. Are all of you 12? Go back to playing fortnight.
Fuck you even more.
I’ve never understood this pov. Sure you can say no vote was the same thing as a vote for trump, but surely the people that actually voted for him are worse, no? I can understand ‘fuck you just as much’, but even more?
It’s the apathy, or the belief that it somehow doesn’t matter. To quote Walter Sobchak:
Nihilists, fuck me. Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos.
There is absolutely ZERO reason to believe that those who didnt vote would have voted for Harris. In fact, every person I know who didnt vote are trump defenders. Every one. Every. Single. One.
He’s not wrong. Definition of genocide and war crimes are also pretty clearly enshrined. As are our countries laws against funding them.
yhea, Have you seen the news?
rule of law is dead in the US
Ok, so he breaks the law, AGAIN… that’ll be how many times? And how many consequences? And how will he be punished? Who will punish him? Remember, this is an insurrectionist that the administration from 17-21 did not go after because it would have been “taken as political”. So, again, who cares what the law says, because he doesn’t.
Trump has already been impeached twice. What else could they do except attempt to remove him from power, and with what army?
Uh, my point exactly. Mother fucker thinks he’s untouchable because he is. The GOP have kneecapped our democracy to the point that if you are in power, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Didnt the supreme court decide that a president can do whatever if its an “official act”?
Being impeached doesnt inherently carry consequences.
If you think of it like a trial, the house delivers the guilty verdict (impeachment), and the senate determines the sentencing. The senate basically said, “yea so what? No consequences”
If the senate would do their job too, impeachment would mean something
I think that at this point people should settle on the fact that the only consequences Trump will ever face is in a history book 30 years after WW3/Civil War 2.
Well except in the Reconstruction States because there will be a number of lies that will endure forever, similar to the Lost Cause and Stabbed in the Back myths.
maybe cynicism will help
I think cynicism is keeping a vast majority of Americans peaceful right now. We are being told we need to be peaceful, we feel the need to fight. We all cope with this insanity in different ways man.
We’re waiting on the Kilmar contempt case still aren’t we? (Refusal to turn the planes around)
Taco’s a bitch, he’s leaking all this to get leverage to make a deal. He’ll pussy out and Iran knows it. They’re playing the same games with him but from a position of knowing he’s full of shit
He’ll do what he wants without consequence, whine about it online as if he’s somehow the victim, and then continue to break more laws.
uhhh ok sure but that doesn’t mean loopholes exist
and like loopholes the founders knew abt, like its by design that the POTUS moves the military arround
to say that this is illegal isnt sensible, you might be against it but still
Ya congress’s check to that is supposed to be the ability to cut funding
And people really think congress wouldnt vote for war? Lol…
Seems pretty epicly pointless to try to force a vote against Israel’s interests in the US congress. It will be unanimously shot down, like every other bill that Israel has any interest in… Sanders know this. So why is he pretending a vote in congress is the big goal that we need to make noise about?
Sanders wont even call the war on Palestine a genocide. If he wants to actually do something effective here he should be forcing AIPAC to be registered as a foreign lobby, like JFK tried to do right before he was assassinated. Otherwise Bernie is just wasting everyone’s time, and keeping the left busy yelling for a vote to happen that we have absolutely zero chance of winning.
