• @[email protected]
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    2079 days ago

    A lot of Americans don’t have a private area outside of their car

    I can’t tell you how many of my telehealth therapy clients meet me from their car because they don’t have a truly private space in their own home. I actually can tell you, it’s like 40-50% depending on when you ask me

    • @[email protected]
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      169 days ago

      I’d think the bathroom would be anotherboption.

      Yiu can take the ham radio license exam over Zoom now, but you need to be in a closed room to imply you’re not being coached. The evaluators said I was far from the first to do it in the loo.

      • @[email protected]
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        249 days ago

        If you can’t ask family for a private space for an hour long therapy session, chances are you won’t feel safe/private in the bathroom either. Maybe you don’t want them to know you’re in therapy. Much less sus it you’re just out of the house for an hour.

        • @[email protected]
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          99 days ago

          Ugh, this is so true. My mom started going to therapy in 2020 (after her own mom died of Covid), and she’s been keeping it a secret from my dad all this time. When I lived with them, my mom would schedule telehealth calls for when my dad was out of the house and asked me to let her know if he was coming home early.

          Honestly, my dad’s a smart guy and I don’t doubt he’d be understanding of therapy if she talked to him about it - I never got any “anti-therapy” messages from him. But my mom’s anxiety is deep-set from her childhood, and although I would handle the situation differently with my own partners, I’m at least glad she’s talking to a professional.

        • @[email protected]
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          149 days ago

          To add to this, life can be noisy. If you have multiple people working from home and pets, it’s hard to get a quiet time when it’s convenient for you. You can’t ask me to be quiet, if I have meetings scheduled all day so you can’t ask film a food review video.

        • @[email protected]
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          89 days ago

          This one does come up too though but less often. At least once the person made toilet sounds and I had to end the session early as they were clearly taking a shit and I was uncomfortable proceeding

        • @[email protected]
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          28 days ago

          It was less about formal privacy and more “here’s a room that licks so people won’t barge in accidentally”

    • @[email protected]
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      729 days ago

      I’ve had telehealth appointments in the car because I’m using a break from work to make the appointment. It’s bizarre that our society expects us to work 9-5, but also expects us to somehow get every necessary appointment done within that same time frame. I’m not given enough time off to run home and come back, so an appointment in the car it is.

      But your point stands true. My boyfriend has a telehealth call every weekend. Our tiny apartment doesn’t offer much privacy, so he gets the living room (where the computer is) while I either stay in the bedroom, or go out somewhere for an hour to give him space.

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        It’s bizarre that our society expects us to work 9-5, but also expects us to somehow get every necessary appointment done within that same time frame.

        Sure, but anything offered outside the 9-5 window is someone who has to adjust their hours so that it’s more convenient to people who work the standard 9-5. That’s why the places that tend to be open outside the 9-5 window are the ones that tend to employ the lowest-paid people. Gas stations, convenience stores, etc.

        The best paid 9-5 jobs also offer employees the freedom to visit the doctor, dentist, kid’s school, etc. whenever they need to, no questions asked. It’s basically a perk that you only get if your skills are rare enough that employers have to offer it or the talent will go elsewhere. If we wanted more people to have those perks, the way to achieve it would be the same way that the 9-5 workday was created: powerful unions and violent strikes.

    • Estradiol Enjoyer
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      Yep. Telehealth often involves me or partner wearing headphones too in order to make sure we don’t overhear the other’s session

  • Annoyed_🦀
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    Don’t wanna excuse car-centric development, but i’d guess that they want the food to be fresh and they don’t wanna film inside the restaurant, and car provide them some soundproofing from outside.

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        Unless we’re talking about fast food, hot food continues to cook after serving, the longer it takes for you to start eating it the food is gonna be different than when it’s just served. Which is why they all eat inside their car, because taking it home will mean letting the food sit for 10/15/20 minutes. Also they might not be reviewing said food in their neighborhood, they could be driven 20km or 30km away for it, food reviewer tend to go places further than their area.

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          279 days ago

          Even outside of the US, it’s gonna be significantly less good if you don’t eat it there. I live 4 minutes away from where I buy my hotdogs, if I eat it at the store, it’s great, go home first? 4 minutes that’s now a cold dog and it’s shit.

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            I always go home and eat it there. I think you’d have to be a psychopath to go out of your way to go to a takeaway, sit down in the middle of said takeaway and just chomp into whatever and find that enjoyable as the crowds look on in pure terror, wondering what society has come to and if there was anything that could be done differently, mothers looking on in disapproval, clutching their phones and men getting clutching their fists, readying for a potential confrontation, as they watch your teeth rip animal flesh and bread, mixing the two into a fine mix before disappearing it down your throat.

            It sure isn’t the same as outright terror, but it is a threat, and people will see it as such.

            You could just get better hot dogs, in fact - most hot dogs do not turn into “cold dogs” or become soggy or otherwise unpleasant in 4 minutes, honestly not even in an hour, those things are packed to be delivered in foil, in fact in some places like Five Guys, the food actively continues to cook inside the foil packaging, making it actually better after it’s been inside the packaging for some time.

            People around you do know this, they know you are making a choice.

            For the sake of yourself and others, please choose differently.

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              16 days ago

              Ok, you’re both psychos.

              4 minutes isn’t going to turn a normal hot dog into something cold. It’s going to take at least a minute or two just to be cool enough not to burn your mouth if it just came off a grill, frying pan or out of boiling water.

              But, if you’re eating a hotdog that has been sitting around for an hour and it’s still warm, it most likely contains unacceptably high levels of plutonium.

            • @[email protected]
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              Yeah the only place I eat that wraps in foil is zambreros, keeps it good for about 10-15 minutes.

              I live 20 minutes away.

              If I’m buying fast food, it’s going to be eaten immediately because they all turn to shit quickly.

              I also live in a country that eating at a fast food store is normal, it’s why they have tables and chairs.

              I don’t have a five guys here, but I’ve seen American fast food and honestly I don’t think I’m missing out on anything at all.

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                I’m not American nor am in America nor is Five Guys fast food per se either and it has tables and chairs obviously, but that doesn’t mean the average person sits down at the restaurant instead of going home aside from groups of high schoolers, families and tired co-workers grabbing lunch/dinner.

                I don’t know what country you live in where the foil isn’t standard across non-sitdown restaurants either or what zamberros is.

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              You could just get better hot dogs, in fact - most hot dogs do not turn into “cold dogs” or become soggy or otherwise unpleasant in 4 minutes, honestly not even in an hour,

              Have you ever had a hot dog on a bun with condiments, or are you just raw dogging it?

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                Have you? I’ve never once actually had cold takeaway if it was packed properly and hasn’t been left out for like a day. It’s literally a solved problem.

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                  Yes, it was a cold and soggy mess, because I buy hotdogs from places where they are served fresh in a bun with condiments.

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            Yes. But instead of engaging in the “euro vs us” culture war engagement bait, you could just say "sucks takeaways are so far away in the US many people have to drive and eat in their car instead of being able to go home in a span of 10-20 minutes walk.

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              I wasn’t engaging in Euro vs US anything, actually. It’s a foregone conclusion that most of the US is a blighted, car-infested wasteland that was designed by governments and industry as such – and a lot of people seem to have happily accepted that instead of raising hell to make it so they can go home in a span of 10-20 minutes walk.

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        78 days ago

        Not everyone is privileged enough to have the level of privacy at home needed for such a video.

        Hell, even just making this video was probably an excuse to get this guy out of the house for some peace.

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        69 days ago

        I’m sure their professional home film studio would work but the kids running around and such just brings the whole vibe of the video down.

    • Lightor
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      Yeah, this seems like the alternative to being that annoying streamer in a restaurant, I actually find it really thoughtful.

  • RejZoR
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    89 days ago

    I’ll allow it for Wreckless Eating coz they call the show CarBS (carbs hint hint), the only show where he sits in a car and BS about it. They are lovely bastards lol

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    i was driven by an uber driver yesterday who seriously thought cycling should be illegal.

    his rationale was that bicycles are “unregistered vehicles and so if they cause accident who is going to pay?!” when i pointed out that probably they should pay just as anyone else he just dismissed it like this: “that is not possible. if a cyclist crashes into me and kills me who is gonna pay me?!” i was speechless after that.

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    108 days ago

    Because no one want to listen to them yap on and on in the restaurant. And it could be a long drive back to wherever you live. Or the people at their home don’t want to listen to them either.

  • @[email protected]
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    679 days ago

    Eh. Would you rather they sit in the restaurant and annoy everyone with their filming and talking?

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        149 days ago

        If I see someone filming in a restaurant, I am not going in there. I’m probably not alone. I honestly don’t get what this post has to do with cars in the first place.

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        Is someone sitting accross from a camera and quietly talking to it really much different from someone sitting accross from a person and talking to them?

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          Most reviews they get into the food and it becomes a lot louder than that. Which is fine, get into your video, but that would be weird in the restaurant.

          Also, recording people could make them uncomfortable. One complaint and they could be thrown out mid video and meal.

          It just doesn’t make sense to do it inside IMO. I don’t get what’s so bad about them doing it in a car.

          • @[email protected]
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            18 days ago

            Modern mics that clip to a shirt means they can pretty much whisper their review. Doing it inside lets them show how the dining experience is such as the atmosphere of the restaurant, what kind of decorations they have on the walls, how the food looks properly plated instead of crammed into a take out box.

            Someone politely and quietly doing a food review doesn’t impact your dining experience much compared to anyone else dining at that table.

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              14 days ago

              Yes, they could whisper their review. Doesn’t sound like a very fun or energetic review though.

              Yes, they could show the inside of the place, but that’s not what they’re reviewing, they’re reviewing the food.

              No, it doesn’t impact people in the place too much. Unless they might be on camera and made to feel uncomfortable. That could cause issues.

              I’d say someone politely and quietly doing a food review in their car doesn’t impact your dining experience at all. Fully.

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      It is actually possible to talk at a normal volume and film discreetly in the restaurant without bothering anyone, Americans are just loud as hell

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        639 days ago

        The number of “why do influencers always film in public” that I’ve seen leads me to believe that if they were filming in a restaurant instead, this post would not exist, but a “Social Media brainrot. That’s why. They think they can just film anywhere.” post in some other community instead.

        Look, I agree, “fuck cars”; but eating and filming in the car you own is just not problematic beyond owning the car in and on itself, at all. There’s plenty of valid car criticism to be had, you don’t have to go looking for things to be enraged by.

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          “why do influencers always film in public”

          Those are the obnoxious ones who go out of their way to make their content everyone else’s problem. You know the ones – and yeah, they exist everywhere, and no one likes them.

          But this filming in a car thing is very uniquely American – you rarely, if ever, see people from other parts of the world doing this, even if they’re making the exact same kind of content. The majority of content filmed inside a vehicle by someone not from North America is when being in or around the vehicle is integral to the content being made (like a car review.)

          To stick with this example, food reviewers can and do make their reviews right there in the restaurant – like I said, it’s not exactly difficult to set up your phone or compact camera and talk at a reasonable tone and volume so none of the other people around you are disturbed, aside from the occasional sourpuss who might give you the stinkeye regardless, and still get excellent content. My partner often does this kind of thing and not once have we ever felt the need to sit in her car to do it.

          I don’t have the slightest problem with people eating and filming in their cars – the reason this post is here is because of the way Americans, and uniquely Americans (and Canadians, I guess) have been systemically primed into viewing their massive, cavernous cars as a viable third space to do this sort of thing when the rest of the world doesn’t, because there’s plenty of space outside to do it – and even when there is space to do it, they gravitate back to their cars because carbrain.

          • @[email protected]
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            129 days ago

            Americans: because of the system and place I was born into, the only place I can get privacy to express myself is in my car.

            You: BWAHAHA AMERICANS ARE SO LOUD THEY CAN’T RECORD IN PUBLIC BUT THEY SHOULD ANYWAY YOU DON’T HAVE THIRD SPACES BUT THAT’S YOUR FAULT SOMEHOW CARBRAIN CARBRAIN CARBRAIN

            Jfc you sound judgemental and pretentious. I think we need to do stuff to eliminate cars and stuff but if someone even doing anything related to cars makes you go this rabid maybe take a step back.

            • @[email protected]
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              Yeah, I hate driving, but it just sucks that this comm is more interested in insulting me for needing a car than helping me avoid the thing I hate. I sold my car last year… and now I have to borrow a car to get to therapy each week because a ten minute drive is an hour away on the bus, and that bus only comes by once every four hours. Cycling is not an option because it’s a truck route and I’ve already been run off the road once on a bike.

              I really want to love this community, but it’s pretty clear that the general opinion is that I don’t deserve transit because my government isn’t listening to me. Like, holy shit, if you want to attend the public opinion meetings at my transit authority, they’ll send a car to pick you up because it’s not serviced by bus, and that’s better than most of the US. But I’m the carbrain when I complain about how unusable transit is.

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                What the fuck are you talking about?

                Pretty much everyone here wants a less car centric society.

                All they say is don’t be a dick to people who (have to) use one.

                The filming in Restaurants in a whole other can of worms in which many like me say no I don’t want a tape rolling nearby while i eat.

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                Seriously, you might need to take a step back and touch grass if that’s how you respond to things, I’m kind of worried about your mental state

              • @[email protected]
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                48 days ago

                Your responses has been pretty judgemental. You don’t need to be an American to see that.

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            Your take a wild…

            People don’t film in their cars because they have room mates, are trying to side hustle, and it’s 100 F outside, no they simply have carnivorous car brain… Wild…

            Making a video in a restaurant can make others feel weird, one complaint from one Karen and now your video and meal is over, plus you could be banned. So now you wrecked your meal and video. Why risk it? Why deal with the background noise? Why not be somewhere you can be more animated and expressive in your review? I mean it seems very logical to film in the car…

          • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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            American here, fully agree with you. I am amazed that the same community that calls out carbrain and lack of public transit to sell cars being a uniquely American issue, then says carbrain being an American issue is wrong.

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          The number of “why do influencers always film in public” that I’ve seen leads me to believe that if they were filming in a restaurant instead, this post would not exist, but a “Social Media brainrot. That’s why. They think they can just film anywhere.” post in some other community instead.

          So you’re saying that, if the video didn’t have a car in it, it wouldn’t be in this “Fuck Cars” community? Deep thoughts.

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              Sometimes it seems like people don’t even read your comments, doesn’t it?

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        It’s the only way you can hear us over the gunshots

    • @[email protected]
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      I’d rather they skip the filming. You are watching the American season of ‘happy muhkbang’

  • @[email protected]
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    They live in the car because they cannot afford to live in a real house or flat. This is not the car’s fault.

    • @[email protected]
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      37 days ago

      New Orleans has the best I’ve seen in the world so far, as long as you don’t go where tourists go.

      • @[email protected]
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        58 days ago

        I’d be fine with this as long as the packaging was also cardboard. When I see a drink in a full plastic cup with a soggy paper straw I’m baffled.

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      What? Do you want fast food places to give you reusable dishes and silverware with a carry out order?

      Do you bring it back or is fast food just gonna get really expensive?

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        I’m a fan of slow food myself. Sure I’ll get a Döner to go in a pinch (which doesn’t require cutlery) but all this fast food, in some cases daily, can’t be good.

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    Because there are kids and spouses and often parents and other family at home, can’t shoot a video with all that noise.

  • @[email protected]
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    308 days ago

    You know, I love what you guys are trying to do here. I love seeing the pictures you guys post when progress is made and I agree with you that the world would be better with more walkable places that are beautiful and green.

    This post though? It is pointless and it makes you all look batshit insane.

    “Oh no, someone used a drive thru. Stupid car brain! Use ur legs moron!”

    Meanwhile I’m sitting here 45 miles from the nearest Walmart haha. Out here in rural hell I’d have to camp out overnight to finish my journey to get food.

    I know, I know. I should take my talentless, unskilled ass to a city and leave everyone I know and love behind so I can walk from my cardboard box to McDonald’s.

    Maybe I’m just in a bad mood. I usually like the posts here. This one just rubs me the wrong way.

    • Muad'dib
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      Bruh get one of those insulated bags that the doordash people use. Order the food in the drive through, put it in the insulated bag, close the lid. Then drive home and have your food at the kitchen table with a metal knife and fork like a civilized person. You won’t get crumbs and sauce on the carpet of your car. You’ll have an actual table to put your plate on. You can watch TV if you want. You can have a soda from the fridge at home instead of spending all that money on the McDonald’s sprite. You can sit down with your family and talk about your day.

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        I mean, I think mcdonalds food is already shitty as hell, but why let it get even shittier by letting the moisture parts seep into the dry, the moisture parts dry out, and the meat parts get cold? Insulated bags keep food sort of hot/cold, but the only correct way to eat food is at the moment it is done. Otherwise it just gets nasty. I don’t care how you reheat your fries, ninja air idiots, they aren’t anywhere close to fresh. Repeat ad nauseam for everything else.

        Also, if you’re eating a mcdonalds burger with a fork and knife, your life has gone off the deep end. Or fries, if you’re already eating a burger.

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        If I’m eating McDonalds, it’s because my hunger got the better of me on my 6th trip to the hardware store that day and I said “fuck it”. I want to get my food, get in my car, and finish driving to the hardware store while eating so I can buy a single bolt, and drive back home to finish whatever project I’m working on. No, I’m not going to have a nice sit down meal with my non-existant family. That’s not what McDonalds is for.

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        38 days ago

        For me, that would be some very cold food by the time I got to eat it.

        I always put my phone on my steering wheel and watch tv. I’m a stay at home dad, my kids know all about my day haha.

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    Well that and isn’t a significant % of US citizens homeless these days?