I’m not surprised. I live in Australia and always wanted to travel to the US. As time goes on the likelihood of travelling there seems more bleak.
Tourism went down in Berlin in 1935, but that’s not the same thing, right?
And up in 1936 on account of the Olympics. You’ll never guess who’s hosting the 2028 games.
What the fuck lol
History really does repeat itself
Let’s see when a latin American person wins, whether Trump refuses to shake hands
They’ll get deported on their way out of the stadium.
Nah. Deported before the event to ensure that somebody whiter wins
Tourism is down? No shit!
I’m in a situation where I might have to travel with a group of students, and big boss is dead set on the US. We’re talking overtime, plane tickets, car rental, hotel, and a per diem. But still I’m resigning before I’ll go to the US right now. If ICE or CBP sees 10% of the stuff I’ve said about TACO, and politics in general, online, I’d be lucky to just get shipped home.
Thats what happens when you’re a bunch of cunts
Yep. And also people not wanting to get human trafficked out to South Sudan or El Salvador.
Yeah…thats covered under being a bunch of cunts. Only a cunt would do that.
And not good ones like Australian cunts
No one wants to visit. ICE is even detaining white people from Canada and UK, no one is safe from this Trump crap.
Good. We fucking deserve it.
Hoping my flight to visit the US this fall has empty seats.
(I’m a US citizen who has not been back to the states for over 5 years. Going to visit family and meet 2 of my sister’s children.)
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
By then, ypud better delete all your social media post just to make sure you dont lose your citizenship over some random like of a trump meme
Correction, you WERE a US citizen!
-ICE, probably.
You might be in luck, I just rode the AA56 Mia - Heathrow and there were more than a couple rows of seats with one lucky guy. Seats open here and there as well, not a packed flight to the point where overhead bins who are usually crammed were open and some still could fit stuff.
First time in about 10 years traveling I’ve seen this.
I’ve been lucky with this particular flight before having the entire row, but it’s been years and I’m doing a different airline this time, so hopefully it plays out the same way.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
Believe me, I understand. And I’m sure a lot of other people do, too.
I do a lot of online language exchange. I have dual citizenship, but if anyone asks, I’m Canadian.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
You did. I live here and my reaction to your post was l, “Why the fuck would you willingly come here?”
Ew gross, you are going to the US, on purpose!? 🤣
Don’t give the fascists a reason to imprison you
Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…
Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Yep. That would definitely rank very fucking high for me if I was a non-USian who thought about coming here. Most especially if I wasn’t doing the Dark Forest theory of Internet use and/or if I was not white/xtian.
These assholes are wanting to log in to devices at the border and are trolling for political content.
https://apnews.com/article/internet-privacy-smartphones-travel-e0a3146ae7966ea0e4157dbfae1f6a81
This is not a trump effect. I think the US is starting to lose appeal overall, and tourism is a side effect of this. I remember when people were waiting for the next movie, album, tv series from the US, now it all seems meh at anything that comes out of Hollywood is uninteresting.
I’m Irish. Irish people loved to holiday in the States. Now, I hear more and more stories from work colleagues, friends and family where holidays to US are cancelled or reconsidered as ** a direct result** of Trump policies.
Confirmed! A couple I knew changed flights last Month and went to Canada instead.
You have a point, I should have said that this is not trump effect alone. I think the US are less appealing now overall as compared to 20 years ago. Trump is just adding the cherry on top.
You aren’t wrong that the US is losing its appeal in general. But Trump is putting the breaks on hard right now.
It’s one thing to say “Well, US is kinda boring, nothing worth seeing there”, and it’s another thing fearing whether you will make it back home if you go there.
Even if the US was still the coolest place to be in 2025 (which it is certainly not), I would not consider booking a ticket. The fear of losing the money I invested in the trip in case they don’t let me in at the border would be enough to not go to the US, but being afraid that I might be detained or shipped to some random 3rd country because they don’t like my social media posts is certainly enough to make sure I’d never go there.
I heard North Korea is a pretty nice place to visit. Still not going there even if the trip was for free.
I honestly think the US has a lot to offer to tourists, it’s a shame that it’s coming to this. Last time I was there it was in 2022 and visited magnificent places like Monument Valley and the Grand Canyon and there’s few places in the world that can compare to them. But on the other hand, everything became very expensive compared to my previous visits not too many years before.
It’s only been a couple of months. For many people across Europe, visiting the US is quite a trip, these are easily planned a year in advance. Therefore, many still visit the US, because otherwise they might lose serious sums of money. I’m curious to see what next years figures will look like
Meanwhile, Taco is literally attacking the 4th largest economy in the world and yammering on about tariffs again.
I just don’t know how the market is still (relatively) up. I think when the crash does come, it’s going to be so rough.
The market is running on cocaine, hate, and broken dreams. Just give it time, and it’ll be a hell of a crash.
The market is running on cocaine, hate, and broken dreams.
As mentioned by many, the “market” is just a graph of rich people’s feelings. Everything he’s done so far is helping rich people.
My point still stands lol
exactly. not only is it mainly made of their money with whatever retirement and such from those doing better in the middle being a pittance in comparison but they also aren’t really investing and just holding it there because there is no real other option. Meanwhile as wealth disparity gets worse less of the regular folk even have anything in it. So it goes up because people who have money don’t have anywhere else to put it. Should be interesting once we see the us market doing poorly while europe and asia do alright or if the bond markets falls apart.
And Project 2025 is the blueprint for it (with fascism woven throughout).
Cocaine, Hate and Broken Dreams is what netflix should name the documentary about the upcoming market crash
Ketamine, Kamps and Krash
the dollar is down
that effects valuation
You’re literally imprisoning tourists for the most minor shit, you silly dickheads. Of course that’s going to cost you money.
I DIdNt vOtE fOr ThIs
I specifically voted for the opposite of this! Lol
I never do. And yet it happens anyway.
No idea why a European would ever want to come here. The travel options there are much better and cheaper. Oh and you won’t get thrown into a foreign prison.
Throwing aside the current administration… There’s so much to see in the US. All the national parks and other sights. It’s a roadtripper’s dream. One of the most diverse countries as far as landscape and climate is concerned. We have Disneyland in Europe (Paris), but there’s Disney World in Florida which is way bigger (never been to either, not THAT big of a fan myself, but I know there’s loads of Disney fans). NYC, LA and SF are all great cities to visit I hear, though I’ve only been to NYC (lots of fun - there’s so much to discover just by walking around)
Now as a foreigner I’m slightly scared of the current admin despite being pasty white, so I’m not going to visit again anytime soon. But one day I would like to come back for sure. Until then… I do still have a LOT of Europe to discover as well, I’ve only spent any real time in my neighboring countries, others I’ve visited very briefly.
Slightly off topic, but If you have the time to travel; may I suggest looking into Interrail if you’re not already aware of it. An interrail pass would be the European equivalent to an american road trip imo.
One train ticket helped me cover places like Portugal, Spain, and Italy, all the way through to Switzerland and onto Hungary, Poland etc and back home all over the course of two weeks.
I was backpacking solo, so just looked up hostels in whatever city i ended up in on the day. But you could just as easily use it to plan a family itinerary. The actual ticket lasts a lot longer than a fortnight too; I’m just a slave to the machine and couldn’t get more time off.
I will once they finally build rail baltica lol, otherwise I’d need to fly anyway, or drive which makes luggage more convenient
All those national parks are on the chopping block too now. Unless major changes happen it won’t be worth visiting in 10 years.
Throwing aside the current administration…
That’s not true, I noped out after they want pants on head insane after 9/11, you’re just seeing that amped up now. People just normalised it as they will this.
I spent quite a bit of time there and lived their briefly early this century but havent been back since.
There’s so much to see in the US.
Agreed but the worlds big place and lots to see
It’s a roadtripper’s dream.
Or nightmare because you’re forced to use a car, train travel is laughable and walkabilty is ridiculous in most places.
But to be fair for environmental and carbon emission reasons I don’t fly anymore and try not to drive unless it’s essential.
I had a Finnish friend visit me in LA a few months ago and he had an absolute blast. There are still plenty good people and things to do and see in the US.
I live in the US and I still haven’t visited LA. The US is fun but right now we are just “not cool”.
Oh definitely not. We’re blisteringly uncool sadly
Aside from politics, the US has a ton to offer for someone that wants to experience the world. The Rockies, Appalachian trail, Great plains, deserts, huge rivers and lakes, and a bunch of other natural beauties. Not that mountains and bodies of water don’t exist elsewhere, but when it comes to nature, there’s something for anyone that likes being out doors.
From a tourist side of things, places like Disney World, Universal, Las Vegas, New York City, and others just don’t have the same thing elsewhere. I’m more into the nature side, but lot’s of people really enjoy the big cities and amusement parks. The Rockies also offer some of the best snowboarding and skiing in the world, and there’s only 1 Appalachian trail.
Too bad politics makes all of that less safe for foreigners and is actively enshitifying nature.
You mean Trump is bad for business?
Which means all those people saying he’d run it like a business are…stupid?
He is running it like a business, problem is, he runs most of his businesses straight into the ground.
This. Running a country like a business is not good.
Well, the idea of running a Constitutional republic “like a business” is stupid for a whole lot of reasons, but having Taco run it like one of his “businesses” is…next-level stupid.
pretty sure a majority of small (and large tbh) business owners who rely on tourism voted for exactly all the bullshit going on right now. they can go fuck themselves
Majority of small, 100% of large.
I don’t know about 100%. I doubt the companies that do a lot of manufacturing in China were big on Trump… even if they tried to buy him off by donating to his inauguration.
His trade policies were always going to be bad for business.
Bad for business, but perhaps not as bad for the rich business owners that can capitalize on the market chaos a bit without even pretending to contribute to actual productivity.
I guess. But the people who benefitted the most on that were loyalists who supported the grift.
I bet a lot of the rich voted for him, but you’re always going to have the Mark Cubans and Tim Cooks of the country. People that are pretty clearly giving more money to democratic side of the aisle.
True enough, there are some rich people that aren’t onboard with it, but there’s just room for some other rich people to suceed even as their business suffers.
And then double dip on a recovery.
But certainly, there’s room for both, so that’s why it’s not quite as mind numbingly stupid that some of the billionaires are on board.
