• TrackinDaKraken
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    1511 days ago

    This is fantasy, I do not condone violence.

    I want them to fight to the death in an arena. There’s about 800 of them in America. We could set up a tournament bracket, there are plenty for every city to get a live performance. If they refuse to fight, they’re both beheaded. The whole thing would be televised. Viewership would break world records. The champion gets life in prison.

    It would start here, but like any good reality show, it would expand worldwide.

    It would stay active, when two people are discovered to be in control of over a billion–because you know they won’t be able to resist, and they’ll do their best to hide it, thinking they’ll get away with it–they’ll be rounded up and paired off.

  • ivanafterall ☑️
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    9111 days ago

    If we’re workshopping names, Boil the Billionaire has nice alliteration.

    “I’m Mark Summers and Welcome to…”

    Live Audience: “BOIL!”

    Live Audience: “THE!”

    Live Audience: “BILLIONAIRE!”

    • @[email protected]
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      2510 days ago

      Instead of drowning then in molten lead, we could force-feed them enriched uranium and call it Let Them Eat (Yellow) Cake.

      • @[email protected]
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        910 days ago

        If this makes a difference, they wouldn’t drown. They’d cook on top like eggs over easy.

    • @[email protected]
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      3411 days ago

      What about calling it “you can’t do that on television” and slime boil them when they say “I do not recall” or similar while under oath

      • Rhaedas
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        1511 days ago

        I understood that reference. God, getting old sucks.

          • Rhaedas
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            410 days ago

            The trick is to know where your limits are, and never do anything unusual without caution. My worst back problem so far is posture.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    Liberté! égalité! fraternité!

    Leeja Miller notes historically wealth accumulated by the aristocratic elite is never restored back to the public (that is, back to the state general fund, then used to sponsor roads, bridges, libraries, food programs, education, science, etc. which serve the public good) except through violence, e.g. the response of the French public after the États Généraux de 1789 )

    So this, along wirh discussions of the kind of reprisal Luigi Mangioni may not have done, all tracks, considering the escalating clime in the United States.

    It’d sure be nice to find a nonviolent path to restoring creating public-serving government and a system that regards the personhood of absolutely everyone, but we very much cannot take violence off the table, especially when it comes to restoring wealth parity.

    • @[email protected]
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      39 days ago

      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

  • @[email protected]
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    3510 days ago

    I like it, but it needs some work to give it staying power. I say start with 1 billionaire, then once they’ve gotten a good, front-row whiff of the consequences, we start a blind bidding war for social services, a different one each episode. Whoever has the lowest bid gets a new and excruciating ending at the end of each episode. The one guy left standing at the end gives up his money for the final program, but gets to walk out alive.

    • magnetosphere
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      1211 days ago

      That might not be the ideal choice of words in this case, but I like your enthusiasm!

      • @[email protected]
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        410 days ago

        “LET HER GO, JOKER!”

        “Funny choice of words…HAHAHAHAHA!!!”

        Racheal falls from the ledge

  • ddh
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    2610 days ago

    But we get the lead back, right? Otherwise that’s a bit of a waste.

  • balderdash
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    1410 days ago

    Online liberals will joke about eating the rich but get mad when protesters block traffic. Online liberals will joke about “the guillotine” but argue that destruction of property counts as “violence”.

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      Because blocking traffic doesnt hurt anyone except other lower class people forced to drive for their livelihood.

      Lets protest the rich by punishing the poor. Next well protest the rich by licking their boots. They’ll hate that for sure… Makes no sense.

      • balderdash
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        110 days ago

        There will be a lot of blocked traffic if we ever bring back the guillotines. Just be honest and say you don’t want to be inconvenienced.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 days ago

          Nah, im all for eating the rich but dont punish working people with stupid protests. Protests that inconvenience people who you want to be on your side just turns them against you. If you want to lose the fight make everyone who supports you stop supporting you.

          You do you though.

          • balderdash
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            How can we ever get to the point of eating the rich if we can’t even block traffic without turning people away from the cause? The former is far more disruptive than the latter.

            Mass protests in other countries have shut entire cities down. That’s what it takes. If your sentiment is the popular one (and it appears to be), then Americans will never get to a place of actual resistance. I guess people just aren’t mad enough yet.

        • @[email protected]
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          19 days ago

          I’ve started to reply to this a few times but I dont think there is a “good” answer. Me personally I think strikes and boycotts are functional protest methods. They hurt innocent people just trying to survive but the difference is that they dont “just” hurt those people. They also hurt the rich at their bottom line.

          The real problem I have with traffic protests is that they dont actually do anything other than alienate the protesters. If you could do mass traffic protests so that it actually made a difference to outweigh the other side of the coin then it would be different. But you would need a nationwide organized protest. Which we are nowhere close to.

          • @[email protected]
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            19 days ago

            Thanks that makes some sense. I think the thing is they’ve been effective in the past, and not much else has. Maybe there has to be some sort of sacrifice to gain progress.

            I guess some of the postwar progressive (economic) reforms - largely now abolished - were actually a product of democractic pressure rather than protest - but some of the other ones like anti-racism stuff still did require sacrifice and protest on top of that. And the prevailing economic conditions were quite extreme at that time. When people have less to lose there’s less cost.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 days ago

        We’re killing all the billionaires, but line must still go up. There’s no point in anything if line doesn’t go up.

        • @[email protected]
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          410 days ago

          10 per season with a 10 season contract, paid for by the ad proceeds. Overflow goes to rescuing puppies or something.

      • D_C
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        410 days ago

        Don’t worry. I’d buy a shit ton of extra TVs so I could watch it from every angle and not miss a single second of it.

    • @[email protected]
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      310 days ago

      your loss, sounds like the only reality tv worth watching to me. fuck, I’d watch it on pay per view.

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    I am sometimes saddened that “Authoritarian Good” doesn’t seem to exist.

    I mean, it’s not hard to figure out values. Sure, some morons might think the good things you want are bad, but they’re MORONS we can ignore them.

    “Oh no! Save the billionaires! What if we become wealthy one day?” No, you won’t. If you love them so much throw yourself in the pit with them.

    • Rhaedas
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      811 days ago

      What if we become wealthy one day?

      What if you could just live comfortably for your entire life?

      Aye, I could do that.

    • @[email protected]
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      Depends what you define as landlord.

      Guy who owns 2-3 duplexes in the city? Nah.

      Big time landlord who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars from thousands of properties? BOIL EM!!!

      • @[email protected]
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        It still staggers me how quickly some people’s opinions on landlords changes when they see the money. A bunch of otherwise stand up fellas are now dreaming of using their retirement investments to ‘buy some houses, rent them out for the passive income,’ and another of the group who says his dream is to buy/own an apartment complex, all the while salivating at the money.

        Most of us are trying to play in a game we hate… where not playing means suffering. I don’t really see just owning rental properties to be worthy of the billionaire boil. Hold them accountable for every scummy practice and ounce of harm caused by greed seeking, but not merely for renting housing out.

      • @[email protected]
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        310 days ago

        Exactly. I’m living in a triplex that sold for $1.4 million last year. My rent is less than 1/3 a 30 year mortgage (with a 3.5% down payment). My old landlord set the right price. I hope my new landlord does the same.

          • @[email protected]
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            110 days ago

            It’s a 1970’s build too. Other triplexes are selling for way more or just less than that individually.

            But this is in Seattle.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉
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        the guy who owns 2-3 duplexes can (and are incentivised) to be as cruel and inhumane as possible by the same capitalist forces.

        if you ask me, rent shouldn’t be a thing. once you paid the value of the house in rent you should be able to claim it as your own.

        • da_cow (she/her)
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          510 days ago

          I agree, but those who own like 2 or so houses are literally not the main problem. We can work on abolishing them at a later point, but until then we can ignore them.

          • 🍉 Albert 🍉
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            I’ll concede that they aren’t the “main” problem.

            but if we eliminate corporate landlords, that industry will be taken by smaller landlords and you haven’t really fixed the problem, just replaced a handful of corporations with a few thousands of landlords doing the same shit.

            • da_cow (she/her)
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              Its much harder to enshittify a market when you dont have a monopoly, so it does improve the situation. But yeah, longterm we definitely have to act against those too.

              • 🍉 Albert 🍉
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                we could go into a very nice debate, but I think the economical forces that push for enshitification will still be there even if you break monopolies or large corporations. It will likely be slower without shareholders demanding permanent growth. but the landlord greed is still there.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 days ago

          Based on that definition you never stop paying. Homes values constantly go up. My dad bought a house in the 1970s. 33k.

          Today the house has a value of 300k. Took him 30 years to pay off the original mortgage.

          • 🍉 Albert 🍉
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            part of the reason house prices are always on the up, is because they agree considered an investment not a basic necessity. so there’s no interest in building more.

            a house shouldn’t cost more than construction cost.

  • Oida Grantla
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    There’s no real entertainment in this…

    let them fight to the death… and then let the animals in… If you want to know how to entertain MAGA folks… check out the ancient romans!

    • _AutumnMoon_
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      410 days ago

      Winner gets a dog park named after them, because they were eaten by wolves released into the pit after they defeated the other billionaires