Hi everybody :)

I’m not entirely new to wargaming, but I’ve never played WH40k before. So I have many questions about the game and some tooling around it. I’ll start with universal questions in case answers may help some new players too and then I have a couple of questions about the faction I’d like to play. Thank you for reading it and I hope answering some questions :)

  1. After a Combat Patrol “phase” what do I need to have to play a full Warhammer 40k game? Dices and measuring tape are obvious. But do I need to buy a codex? Do I need to buy a datasheet cards?
  2. How to unlock information about datasheets and detachment rules in WH40k official app?
  3. Are there any popular army builder apps or sites? Or we should stick to the official app?
  4. When I need to specify units for Dedicated Transports? Should it be specified on an army roster list or it could be decided before the game? If it is former, how can I select it in the official app army builder?
  5. The same question about attaching Characters to Bodyguard units?

Specific questions about Space Wolves:

  1. New Codex has new Combat Patrol, but I can find this new Combat Patrol as a box to buy neither on the official warhammer.com site, nor on Amazon nor at my local stores. Do I need to buy units separately to play it as a Combat Patrol or it’ll come out some time later (when?) or it was already sold out and I missed it completely?
  2. Previous Combat Patrol has Battle Leader Thoryk in it. Can I pick him outside of Combat Patrol? If I can, than who is he: Lieutenant, Wolf Guard Battle Leader or someone else? I can find him neither in Legendary Proxies Table nor in Legends Field Manual.
  • @[email protected]English
    14•12 days ago

    One Page Rules plus a 3D printer or paper cut-outs and friends who are up for such will save you so much headache/$$$$ over doing things the Games Workshop way.

    Otoh, don’t mind me. I own a couple official armies, but haven’t played in around 20 years. I prefer the lore and avoid certain un-washed masses like the plague.

    • keldzhOPEnglish
      1•11 days ago

      Thanks. I hear about this ruleset a lot on the Internet. But for now I want to pick a game I can really play with someone and not just collect miniatures :'(

      • @[email protected]English
        1•11 days ago

        It really is easier to gather your own group with a smaller, more open-ended ruleset. As I mentioned, outside of GW tournaments, you can literally play with cardboard cutouts or paper tokens.

  • Flamekebab
    English
    3•11 days ago

    1 - Datacards are great in theory. In practice they’re instantly outdated and overpriced. The codices get outdated as they’re patched too. Generally I use one of the online rule sources provided by third parties unless I’m planning to play at Warhammer World or something.

    3 - Every iteration of the official app I’ve used has been trash.

  • nocturneEnglish
    5•12 days ago
    1. How to unlock information about datasheets and detachment rules in WH40k official app?

    There used to be a code in the paper codex that unlocked it.

    1. New Codex has new Combat Patrol, but I can find this new Combat Patrol as a box to buy neither on the official warhammer.com site, nor on Amazon nor at my local stores. Do I need to buy units separately to play it as a Combat Patrol or it’ll come out some time later (when?) or it was already sold out and I missed it completely?

    It is likely sold out for the time being. It is relatively new and supposedly popular. I do have one sitting on my shop’s shelf (as well as two of the army boxes) collecting dust.

    Update: Just got off the phone with my GW rep, the new Space Wolves combat patrol has not released yet.

    • keldzhOPEnglish
      1•12 days ago

      Oh, thank you very much. I’m glad that I haven’t missed the new Space Wolves Combat Patrol :)

      And on the code, cool, I wasn’t sure will it be in the codex or in the datasheet cards. I guess than I don’t need to buy at least cards :)

      • nocturneEnglish
        2•12 days ago

        I stopped buying data sheet cards because more often than not they are outdated week 1. But I also gave not played 40k since 8th.

  • @[email protected]English
    3•12 days ago

    Hi,

    1. newrecruit is a very good app or website to build armylists on. It lacks the strategems though, so may by stick with the official app.

    4 & 5. It is decided when setting up the units so no need to mark in the roster.

    1. No, all data sheets in a release like a combat patrol can only be used within a single release. So can’t combine Combat Patrol and the codex versions.
    • keldzhOPEnglish
      1•11 days ago

      Thanks :)

      So can’t combine Combat Patrol and the codex versions.

      Yeah, I understand that Combat Patrol datasheets are only for that ruleset. But what about the model itself? Like the old Combat Patrol I’m talking about has 10 miniatures of Intercessor squad. I understand that for full WH40k game I need to use the datasheet from the Space Marine Codex. But I’m trying to figure out for which datasheet I can use the Character model from the Combat Partol box. Or it will just be a shelf piece when I move on from Combat Partol games to 1000pts games?

      • nocturneEnglish
        1•5 days ago

        From what I have been reading, Thoryk is played as a Primaris Lieutenant with a master -crafted bolt rifle and a master-crafted power weapon. (Info is a year + old)

        Others have said to use the model for whomever your unnamed leader or other character is, such as a Captain.

      • @[email protected]English
        2•10 days ago

        Oh, that model you can use as what you feel like. At least in friendly games. As for tournaments as long as it is clearly marked and equipped as close as possible most of them would be fine with it.