He is losing the narrative control over his base. Cracks…cracks forming!
From r/conservative:
Poetry.
Know what? Good for them.
This is literally the last person on earth that understands this as the situation.
“I LOVE THE UNEDUCATED”
Starting to think, in general.
Leopards! LEOPARDS, I SAY!
Leave the poor Leopards alone, this is job for Flesh Eating Fasciitis.
The irony:
“I am starting to think the mods of r/Conservative think we are idiots”
Did he pull a Hillary “basket-of-deplorables” Clinton?
Except using it to describe a large portion of his base.
She will continue to vote Republican though, which is what matters since Trump can’t run again anyway.
can’t or won’t?
If he gets another ‘term’ it won’t be from running for office.
Vance is gonna run in 2028 and “step down”, since the 22nd amendment states no on can be elected twice. That way, Trump wasn’t elected, Vance was. They’ll just make it very clear that a vote for Vance is a vote for trump.
No one ineligible for the presidency can hold the office of vp so that wouldn’t work unless they made trump speaker of the house and the pres and veep both resigned or were defenestrated.
But that’s just it, the loophole would be that he is eligible to be president, but just that he can’t be elected as such. It’s pretty dumb but the phrasing of the 22nd does use the word “elected”, clearly we all know the intent but the words may have undermined the spirit.
Either way, both the VP and the president have the same stated basic requirements, but the 22nd amendment makes no statement of the VP. While common sense suggests it’s dumb to have a person that hit the term limit as VP, it is not expressly codified.
So no matter the interpretation of the 22nd amendment, it seems like he could be VP. If you have a sane interpretation of the 22nd amendment as a hard term limit, then the succession would skip such a VP, just like it would skip a foreign born person.
The 12th amendment states no person ineligible for the presidency can hold the vice presidency.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
That’s interesting…
But I don’t think it says anywhere that the speaker of the house has to be an elected member of congress?
Nope. It can be anyone except someone already appointed in the executive branch. It’s just tradition that the speaker was a representative.
They will do what Putin did and create a new, unelected, position, appointed by the president. The vote for Vance will be understood as a vote for Trump, and as soon as he wins (somehow with 90%+ of the vote), he will abdicate his responsibilities to the newly created office, and the President will become a purely ceremonial role.
The blueprint is there.
Almost literally what Putin did
I’m surprised people here think he’s going to live that long. He’s so old…
But he will.
There have been people like that at each point of time since 2016. Until now, they were just tiny swarfs of a big table. The question is now whether it will still be just a tiny percentage of followers or an actual significant part of the base.
Let’s see if this is the wake-up call THAT MAGA needed. We have been telling them for years that the Orange TACO doesn’t give a turd about them. Now they get to hear it from the horses mouth. WAKE UP MAGA!
It’s not the first time, the first time was in 2020 when he tried to push the covid vaccine as his great achievement. Which incidentally is something I will give him credit for.
But yeah, I’m cautiously hopeful. I think this is an opportunity the left has to actually reach people if we aren’t dicks to them. If we’re honest and treat them like people who got suckered into a cult or a long con we may get some folks to see what an evil sonofabitch he is
Based on the responses I’ve been reading here on Lemmy, not being dicks to them isn’t an option….
Yeah thats why I mentioned it. Like I get it, there’s some pretty aggressive evil that they cheered on. But either we move the critical mass back or we suffer the consequences. Trust is broken but at a certain point you’re desperate enough to not need trust.
I’m not saying to compromise our morals, please not that, I’m the second under the bus, but we can talk to people like they’ve been led to evil rather than like they’re comprised wholly of evil.
Agreed… 100%… I haven’t been enjoying the comments as much recently because of all the toxic name calling and mockery… coming from the left….
And not in an ironic or funny way, just being hurtful for no reason…
I can see hating on Ted Cruz or other republican politicians, but we’re talking about voters… who have been lied to and misled… just like blue maga has been lied to about Biden and Kamala and Buttigieg and Obama, etc… when all these politicians are all basically on the same side of corporate America…. It’s really sad …
It’s because of catharsis and because many are behaving evilly. It’s because they are supporting fascism, it’s just that now is a time to try to get them to stop and tactically the best call is to not be an asshole to them.
And no, these politicians are not all basically the same. Yes on some issues all of them suck, but not to the same degree and not on every issue.
Quick get the water! He brought his own ICE.
Lol don’t cult leaders do this shit. It’s called Shunning.
Yes, cult leaders don’t bend to their followers. They shun them as the enemy or berate them as weak until they fall in line
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?”
Considering all the blatant illegal and immoral shit Trump does on a regular basis, for THIS to be the turning point is pathetic and absurd.
Spoiler alert- this is not the turning point, these morons will still support him in spite of this
Trump disowned everyone who’s upset about Epstein. MAGAs might be willfully ignorant, but they can’t ignore that.
I think you are delusional if you think there is anything MAGA morons can’t or won’t ignore. I live deep in MAGA country and nobody has taken down their MAGA flags and signs and none of the MAGA people I know are talking about this. The fantasy that this is what is going to finally cause people to wake up and abandon Trump is just a fairy tale told to liberals online to keep them hopeful. They could release video evidence of Trump raping a child on Epstein’s island and it wouldn’t change a thing. People who like Trump in 2025 have had plenty of chances to see evidence that he is a terrible person who actively hates them, but they have chosen to remain blind to it. I don’t see why any particular issue would change that.
i guess either it’s not actually about the Epstein cause, but about the BBB:
- Trump has cut medicaid and it will hurt the people who voted for him. Many have voiced concerns but Trump has ignored them. So they seek an alternative outlet for their anger.
- Note that the current anger started 1 week after Trump signed BBB! (which was signed on Jul 4th) It might be causally connected.
Or it’s because they’re christian:
- You can kill children in the middle east or starve them to death in American concentration camps, but if you rape them, that’s bad because it’s sex outside of marriage or some bullshit.
So, it doesn’t make sense that Trump is acknowledging this as much as he is. If he were to drop it, it would go away and his supporters would fall in line.
Which leads me to believe this is all a red herring to hide something that is actually going on. What are we missing by focusing on this?
He IS trying to drop it, but no one wants to hear his pleading to let it dissappear. He is not even acknowledging his election promise about the whole thing.
- “Why are you still taking about epstein? This creep”
- “There is no client list, Bondi is doing a great job”
- “All people asking for the full epstein files are bad people. The case is done, it is over”
- Pam Bondi should release the files if (I decide) they are credible"
And perhaps soon:
- “Everyone asking for the epstein files is evil and something should be done about that”
- “There never was an epstein in prison, we don’t have files on him”
I find it quite interesting he’s calling anyone wanting the (promised!) truth bad people now.
And will bulldoze them on the Bad People Pile he invented that includes Biden, Obama, Clinton, his rape and abuse victims, the students he scammed with his academy, the IRS, the scientists at the National Weather Service, the World Health Organization, the CDC, the FED and it’s director, The many members of the various intelligence agencies, the judges who didn’t give in to his wishes, and just about everyone who won a court case against him.
They are all bad people.Ah, the “everything is 17D chess” response. Ridiculous.
You’re probably right. It just seems like when things are noticeably bad, they are usually subtly worse.
Was wondering when he going to say Epstein and Russia Russia Russia in the same sentence. Need a whole new bingo card now.
The bar has moved significantly.
Someone on polymarket just made $2k.
Someone grab me a pudding cup while yall up please and thanks.
Oops, turns out that was all of his supporters.
Little bitch won’t disavow actual Nazis but his own people when they ask the wrong question? Fuck those RINOs!
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I’m 90% sure this is to thank those that made it to the end without having their head explode
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Damn he’s really taking this one personally. It’s a mystery why.
Glad to see Conservatives are seeing reality. Does not mean I will ever forgive them nor does it mean they are fit to live let alone breathe, but at least they are seeing reality.
They don’t want your forgiveness. They hate you more than they could ever hate Trump, because you’re part of the out group. They’ll find excuses for pedophilia, rape, whatever… as long as the guy is hurting their “enemies”. Nothing Trump could do would make them abandon their hatred of you.
What if…and hear me out, we offered them cookies?
Make sure its not rainbow.
It’s arsenic and pesticides.
Even worse than those…
Raisins! 🤢🤢
I check r/conservative every now and then to see what’s their opinion about this.
they are mostly eating up conspiracy theories, and deeply believe that trump isn’t in the list.
They are mostly Russian bots. They have to be.
I’ve met a whole lot of crazy living in the South but never anywhere near as crazy as I see on r/conservative.
Their comments don’t even connect with each other like… A lot. Just random bullshit right after another about completely separate topics.
Those dang lefties! Even though they aren’t in power and Trump has been driving the bus himself for quite a while, he’s still managing to pin all the blame on them.
Too bad Mr. Trump is absolutely allergic to any kind of accountability. If his supporters and otherwise actually held this guy to task, he’d never get as far as he does. However, he’s well practiced at sliming his way out of taking any kind of responsibility for his own failures, and this is just another instance of him sneaking away from a bad situation that he is absolutely involved in.
Damnit man. The leopards can only eat so much… Won’t somebody think of them?
Strat is to throw waves after wave to feed the leopard until they hit their feeding limit and explode.
Its almost animal cruelty
Leopard Foie Gras.
