The communist Justin Trudeau wants to tax carbon 😡

But I need this vehicle to buy groceries 😡😡

AX THE TAX 😡😡😡

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      It is. Stuff like this is usually built on a “cube van” factory extended cab n chassis frame, where the normal pickup box would fit on, bolt up like factory, but leave a 2 or three foot gap between a normal cab and the front of the box.

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        I would hope, this ab monstrosity needs at least special drivers licence in most of Europe.

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          It seems to be too long. I doubt it would be road legal here. And if it was, by some absurd event, it would probably fall under C category, which is for heavy load vehicles. It would not be something someone would park in a supermarket parking lot.

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            AfaIk, to put a vehicle into category car (class B) or truck (class C/C1), its length doesn’t matter. The only important factor is the maximum permitted total mass, which is 3.5 t for a ‘car’ or 7.5 t for a light truck (C1) or ‘unlimited’ for a regular truck ©.
            Essentially, this the limiting factor here to be considered as class B ‘car’: As the empty mass of that vehicle is probably quite large, it’s subsequently not permitted to be loaded with noteworthy amount of freight, to remain below 3.5 t, perhaps not even the 5 people that would fit inside.
            Thus, if it’s not completely hoax, it only is allowed to be driven by those that have a C1 licence, which is either professionals or, e.g. in Germany, older people who’ve had that included in their ‘class 2’ licence.

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              In Canada, this thing would have a max gvw roughly around 5500kg and it would weigh about 3, 3500 empty, depending, so max capacity around 2000 kg. That’s just a normal license here, the other categories really don’t start until 10,000 gvw. Non north americans tend to find that odd, but it’s not like we aren’t taught how to drive these things same as you guys, categories just differ.

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                As I’ve said, in Germany, until 1998, people got a class 2 ‘car’ driver’s licence for vehicles up to 7.5 t and learned driving on a VW Beetle or Golf.

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                  As I’ve said, I wasn’t fucking arguing, I was telling you how things are in other countries. But fuck it. Your laws are stupid and so is your government, and so are you for endorsing this nanny state bureaucracy like it’s your own personal identity.

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              I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.

              You didn’t notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It’s probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.

              But I agree. It would most probably fall under C category here, making it a commercial vehicle.

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                I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.

                Yes, according to German law (it’s probably similar in the rest of EU), the limit is 12 m for cars and 18 m for trucks. Yet, afaIk, it doesn’t affect the type of driver’s licence necessary for driving such a vehicle.

                You didn’t notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It’s probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.

                Yes, but the driver legally doesn’t count as passenger and (a part of him) enters the mass of the ‘empty’ vehicle with 70 kg. So it’s either 5 or 7 passengers.

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                  See we don’t even really have a max length, the usual rule is 23 or 27 meters (depends on province but most interprovincial guys obviously follow the smaller limit) but if you want to be longer, then it’s yearly or monthly permits. Regina to Saskatoon on highway 11, 39 meter combos are common.

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    there should be a law that if a car goes past a certain size it’s officially a public transit and people can barge in and expect you to drop them off along your ride.

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    Does canada have really lax limo safety laws? i recall hearing about stretch SUVs in the US that killed like entire friend groups during prom in the US because there’s absolutely no regulation of these things in some places.

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    my friend from ontario says:

    “This might be for folks who work on oil rigs (Edmonton is close to several), a vehicle like this means they can travel as a full crew. It’s still terrible but that might explain it.”

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      They could get a crew van, fit more in it, and still fit in a standard parking spot.

      Probably also quite a few thousands of dollars cheaper.

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        Fuck you, vans are gay and you’re stupid cuck. /s

        That said, I recently saw a guy that bucked the trend and pimped his family van instead of going full truck. Lowered suspension, wider wheels, hot vinyl and a spoiler. Looked pretty good tbh.

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          So like custom conversion vans in the 70s and 80s?

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            Gotta paint a big wizard on the side for full effect

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            I guess I’m old enough to remember when vans were cool. 😭

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              Yeah they were! So much more room than a sedan for long distance trips, and the one we got as a kid had a table you could set up in the back to play games while on the road!

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            Yeah. Don’t recall whether it was, I think it was a Sienna.

      • Vik
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        he doesn’t disagree, he notes it’s still bad but that might explain what we’re seeing here, kind of.

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        I thought the same, but there may be a very specific combination of conditions where this could make sense: bad roads where ground clearance is needed, no sharp curves that require shorter wheel base, need to take 8 people and need to take their tools/materials. but probably they did just because they could

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          Please.

          I’m from Alberta. This is just big dick energy.

          Besides, there are 4x4 crew vans with lift kits that the oil sands mines use to address the issues you’re talking about. Those are most certainly cheaper than this monstrosity, and if it was a work thing he’d have to have company decals on it.

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              I’m not up on my dick energy idioms, nor do I care to be.

              The guy’s is a douche canoe and that’s all there is to it.

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                You brought it up, no need to be curt about it. Don’t like it, just don’t say it! Kinda late to distance yourself now.

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          Honestly, those conditions sound like pretty much exactly what I’d expect working oil in Alberta, and given the cost to make that horrific of a modification, it wouldn’t suprise me if it was something used for work.

          It also would not suprise me if it was some jerk with more money than sense, esspecially as this wouldn’t necessarily conflate with the first.

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            given the cost to make that horrific of a modification, it wouldn’t suprise me if it was something used for work.

            Yeah this seems way too expensive to not have a specific use. I would assume this vehicle needs to transport 6+ people and also a bunch of stuff. There are plenty of vanity trucks you can buy without customizing a third seating row, that’s easily a 6-figure job.

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              Most likwly you could just buy two trucks for the same cost.

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              Oil patch boys came from away and they used to make 1/4 of their present income on the patch, where there is little to spend money on.

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            It’s really not that bad, cab n chassis frame for a 12 foot deck, put a box on, find a wrecked truck with a 4 door and cut off the rear section. A good body guy can pull this off cheaper than you’d think…if you started with a 5 year old quad cab and chassis and a wrecked from front end damage rear of cab fine body and box, you could get it done price of a new truck, remember new trucks are 150 grand in Alberta now, full load.

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        Nope. Required to have 4 wheel drive, and a diesel motor, for pipeline or drilling rig work. No gasoline or propane engines, greater explosion risk. Vans really, really suck off road, I have both a pickup and a van, both chevy, both old, both 2wd. There is no comparison between the truck and van off road or dirt roads, even though same powertrain. Ones a pavement princess. Now, a Suburban diesel 4x4 almost fits the bill, but no box for carrying whatever tools you need to take to the rig, or a welder.

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          As someone who drove a 4 wheel drive van 20 plus years ago, you are talking nonsense.

          As someone who lives in Ab and also has had to drive to a few camps, you are talking extra nonsense. I used an all wheel drive car and helped pick up the plastic shit that falls off all the trucks on site, since they are shit.

          This thing is just a dick extension.

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            I am literally telling you about oilfield policy and regulations, but sure, go off, anyone who actually knows can see who is making a fool of themselves right now. Yes, you can sometimes take other things on site, but there is a requirement to have at least one 4x4 pickup and the diesel requirement is real. 20 years ago is 20 years ago, I used to use a 2wd chevy 3/4 ton gasser too.

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                  EUB

                  The Energy and Utilities Board does not regulate trucks. But please tell all the gas and private vehicles on site that they need to turn themselves in.

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        No ground clearance on van, gona get stuck in the mud. less payload on van, can’t just drop a skid of what ever or extra long things like hydraulic cylinders into a van with out akward fucking around. less tow capacity on van, notice the tow bar on the back… What are you gona put a welder, diesel cans, gas cans, pales of hydraulic oil for equipment/ slip tanks, pumps and what not into the van too with the occupants? What about the greasy and oily ass clothes. Throw em in the van too? So they stain and fill the cab with VOCs?

        This is a purpose built one off, and alot of you are out of touch with how work gets done. Not evey job is hauling standard 8x4 drywall. Alot more trades work than just slinging plaster around.

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          You seriously going to tell me this thing was “purpose-built” for anything more than luxury for the occupants? There are vastly more efficient ways to accomplish anything this thing can do, the only difference is that there’s a tiny bit less legroom. Literally every single one of those things can be accomplished with a modified/lifted van and maybe a trailer.

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          This is totally a male enhancement device due to the lift and frame length. It’s weak in the frame and real regular off-road use will crack it.

          It’s a fucking joke just like the joke that drives it. “Look at me! I’m such a tough manly manchild. My beard is huge and I listen to country music even though I’ve never owned a cow and live in the suburbs.”

          Real working 4x4/dually trucks tend to be factory height (little higher than factory rear wheel) as you don’t want to lift heavy shit higher than you have to. They’re also beat to hell because they do real work.

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            I guess you also didn’t notice the tow bar in the back. Huh. Trucks tend to sit high. So when you load them the truck levels out. Instead of squatting down in the rear. Also I don’t know if this truck is a legit tow truck but if it is, say you had a family of 5 or 6 are on a road trip in your grand caravan. Get into an accident with a dumb shit wild deer/fucking phesant/ windigo w/e or brake down cause budy guy at the last gas station was dumping a bit to much home brew corn gas in the tanks. A regular tow truck fits only 4 people. Plus driver. So now you got to wait for another veichle. Out there shits so remote that could be 30 min or 2hrs depending on the stretch of road. Now you got this pigfugly monster. Your Pacifica/oddesy/Siena is on the hook. You and your family are all in the warm cab and no one is freezing. Because it’s January. Yeah I forgot to mention it January in Alberta -30ºC

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              Most male enahncement devices have towing crap on them so they can tow a boat or a camper once or twice a year. It also makes the manchild feel like a big boy.

              Lifted and that long means it absolutely isn’t a real truck. It’s a stupid toy.

              Again, real trucks are also beat up as they’re tools, not toys.

              I grew up working on a farm, I’ve been around industrial trucking my whole life since then. This isn’t a truck, it’s a toy owned by a boy with a masculinity inferiority complex.

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                Bud, how can you not tell that that is not a ball hitch or pintle hitch? It’s tow stinger, Mr. Farm. Also, the attitude of beat-up trucks is long gone. Turns out you can get more customers and sales when you don’t show up looking like Harry and Marv.

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                  This one of my trucks, it’s a 98 chevy 3500.

                  I’d post another pic of my 98 ranger with mud, carry rack and towing hitch as well as my play farm but Lemmy isn’t taking it right now and i have shit to do.

                  That asshole isn’t driving a real truck otherwise he wouldn’t be taking up four spaces like that in the middle of the parking lot. He’d be parked in tne back row like not an asshole.

                  The frame is too long to be a real truck. He spent over $100k to have people that actually work for a living to build it for him.

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                  If you think spending tons of money on equipment that looks pretty and makes the job harder because you have to baby it is a good marketing tactic, you’re never going to survive as a business owner.

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          Comments like this are so ridiculous. Do you really think nothing ever gets build in Europe because people use vans and buses instead of emotional support vehicles? Canada is just another country, not fucking Mars

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            Vehicles like this one are fairly common in the Alberta oil industry areas, and while they are overbuilt, they’re driving on roads that are worse than the ones through the old Bundeswehr training areas around Munster…if you took a Volkswagen transporter to a job site there, first you’d rip off the exhaust system, quickly followed by snagging the suspension components on something.

            Here’s a picture taken of an oilfield truck from Montana. (Sorry for the r link.)

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              Thanks for the informative comment. The linked photo looks like a much smaller truck than by OP. It would still be ridiculous on asphalt.

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            Didn’t you get the memo, Canada is often colder than the martian equator. 95 percent of the canadian population lives in greater toronto, the lower mainland of BC, and a couple other cities. The other 4 million people live in an area almost as big as russia.

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            Hey dipshit there are only 4 places in the world that have oil sands. Canada, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Venezuela. So ther is no need for shit like this in Europe. Also the natural resource exploration pales in comparison to the rest of the world. Because Europe imports most of their natural resources from places that use “emotional support veichles”. Also in europe, more often then not your job site isn’t going to be 500km+ away from your origin. I’ve been in a many vans, fuck if I’m going to sit in a cramped ass tin can for 8hrs listening to road noise on an uncomfortable ass captains chair. When I can just sit in my lazy boy recliner in a quiet cab where I don’t have to yell to talk to guy beside me.

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              Okay, I don’t want to get into the entire thing why exploiting oil sands is clearly not a necessity and maybe a pretty terrible idea. I agree Europe imports way too many fossil fuels. But switching to alternatives with less reliance on others is clearly a more sustainable strategy.

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                Oh I agree there. Fuck the oil sands, garbage low quality oil that takes a massive toll on the environment, a low quality oil incomparison to other types. Cost way to much to extract. And costs way to much to refine. Hell i think there is only like one refinery in the states that even has the ability to refine that garbage. If gasoline sold for 1.10 per L or less, there would be no profits.

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      I can guarantee each employee drives one of these (or similar) and do not carpool to work or from office to site.

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        you might be on to something!

      • Vik
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        i mean yeah, probably? lol

        don’t get it twisted, I’m not defending this monstrosity

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      Crew? Naw. They drive their own rigs.

      But someone who has a poor understanding of birth control because god said so, yes.

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        That entirely depends. There’s lots of rig crews pile in one or two vehicles at the hotel yet.

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        In Canada? I’m speking from my brief time in ontario - they have busses but public transport lines aren’t all nicely interconnected.

        also, swed nyet

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          okay hold on, do other countries not have buses that aren’t operated as public transport? do hockey teams in canada take a whole fleet of cars to matches or do they just fly for half an hour?

          here in sweden at least it’s completely standard to just buy or rent a bus when you have like 8+ people who need to go somewhere.

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            they’re operated as public transport, it’s just that lines aren’t well connected.

            it’s nowhere near as viable to rely on public transport in north america as it is in europe.

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              but i’m specifically not talking about public transport, i’m talking about a company renting a bus for shuttling its employees.

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                that would require the company to care about its employees. you’re talking about north america here bubs

      • Vik
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        I mean he drives because you don’t have a lot of choice out there, but he’s also agrees with the “fuck cars” of it all.

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    i just like how silly and absurd this truck looks

    its like a satirical cartoon truck meant to poke fun of enormous trucks, except its real and unironic.

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      It’s got nothing on an F650 super truck. I’ve driven past one on I35 outside of San Antonio, TX.

      For a size reference, here’s Doug DeMuro, 6’3” (1.9m):

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        …when it absolutely, positively, has to measure fuel economy in gallons per mile…


        international XT: accept no substitute…

        ( i saw one parked at the taco cabana off brook hollow about ten years ago: they’re formidable in-the-metal! )

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        this legit looks like a semi, but for people with tiny genitals

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          Trucks actually started selling more when the first started mimicing the looks of semis. I think dodge was one of the first to adopt that mindset which was basically everything on the front end gets bigger.

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            the tiny dicked people are all around us then!

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          These are medium and heavy duty trucks, they’re like semi-lite lol (semi-semi?)

          They make a lot more sense in literally any configuration other than pick-up truck.

          Example:

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            “Semi trailer” actually refers to the trailer itself, not the tractor. a “full trailer” has it’s own steer axle, think like a hay wagon. a “semi trailer” has it’s steer axle provided by the tractor pulling it. a “cart trailer” is like 2 wheeled buggies put half the weight on the propulsion device, often a horse. Anyways, when people say “semi truck”, they either don’t know or are referring to the fact of what it pulls, not itself…use it to pull anything else and it is no longer a “semi tractor”

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              True , forgot about that. Then again, how often do you see that type of truck pull anything other than a semi trailer? I don’t think I ever have

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                Where I am, they are often used to move farm equipmnt, but not on a trailer. They strap 2, 2000 lb concrete blocks to the frame over the axle, for traction, and then use them for moving pin hitch farm equipment. “A trains” are also not “semi” trailers, least the back one, and the triple trailers you see UPS and hay farmers use in the west half are full trailers.

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                  Ah yeah, I only ever see full trailers in this configuration:

                  Not really common practice to hook them up to a conventional “tractor” (we call it a “saddle” truck here), usually they’re hooked up to the type of truck where there’s a fixes trailer as well (as seen on the picture)

                  Might just have something to do with length limitations in the EU compared to the US (it’s also why we have cabovers rather than the cool looking US trucks)

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        If I remember correctly, it is custom built from a base f650 (front end and frame) and they put an f350 bed on it as part of the passenger truck conversion

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    I’ve been saying Canada is just Diet US. Credit where it’s due, they elected the lesser dumbass. Also, healthcare. Good on y’all. Obviously Canada is better than the US but my fellow Americans act like it’s the promised land or something. The cost of living is still to damn high, and they still have the same right-wing populist idiots we have. Also, I get our bills and coins suck. Dead old white man and all but how is the fucking royals supposed to be better? I think fascist monarchs are way worse. To any Canadians offended by this, please don’t be. It was not my intent to offend you and I very much realize I am throwing stones from a glass house here. Love you guys!

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      my fellow Americans act like it’s the promised land or something.

      So do lemmy Canadians.

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      Oh “we” didn’t. Carney is right there on camera with the Maxwell/Epstein/Trump/Clinton set, dudes sister in law is Ghislaine’s best friend, connected to British nobility, cousin to our previous prime minister, the whole “conspiracy” is on the fucking wikipedia pages about them. I haven’t had health insurance in 9 years. It’s provincial, not federal, despite my countrymen that think it’s a “right” because of rhetoric, not reality.

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      I’ve been saying this. Honestly, if the US ever goes full 1930s-Germany they’re going to be our Poland. I wouldn’t even want to move there if I have to leave, at least not long-term.

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      I was diagnosed with cancer last year. I am now cured. Cost to me, $0.

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    “Gas prices are getting out of control”
    ~ This guy, probably

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      I don’t think it’s fake, just look at the last door; it’s the dry/dirty spot below the handle is a different shape which tells me it isn’t just a copy/paste of another one. The center door window is also narrower than the others, to accommodate the additional pillar that would be needed for the structure.

      Plus it (probably) wouldn’t be centered in 4 parking spaces if it wasn’t that long. Normal length trucks take up 2 spaces at most, if the driver is an asshole. It’s very possible, if expensive, to modify a truck like that. You’ve seen a limo right? Same concept.

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        My guess is this is for the oil fields in some way since you could get a crew into one vehicle.

        Never the less the fact that they choose a pickup truck when they could have had a really sweet off road van is depressing. You can’t account for taste I guess.

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    Man is this A.I.? All sorts of fucked up little details if you zoom in. Trucks like this exist out there, why fake it?

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          You can see the front drive shaft dropping down, and it looks like you can see it starting the downward run in the back too.

          I’ve seen all sorts of mods for off-road vehicles to “tuck up” the driveline when they do their body lifts and larger tires. Also very common on pickup truck daily drivers in Alberta, especially around the oil sands area.

          Edit: Compare with this picture of a different, lifted, dodge pickup: 2015 lifted ram 2500

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          Shitty mod ez. Have you lived around these vehicles? Either this AI is incredibly good or you’ve just made up your mind.

          I’m not here to defend AI but jacketing leads to some dark places. Living in these places you could easily find this stuff in the wild. The simple answer is low quality camera, rainy day in the regions where Safeway exists. This would take pages of prompts and so so so much time/effort to get AI to produce this quality.

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              AI oddities don’t have easy explanations. So someone put 37" tires on their truck without cutting the wheel well, I’ve seen it 1000x. The wetting is consistent across everything in the picture, the AI wouldn’t understand how to change that based on material or orientation. The lighting is fucked up because it’s cloudy with a clearing sky to the left. I’m telling you the weirdest thing in this picture is that the Safeway has clean paint that doesn’t look like UV-yellowed plastic from the 1970’s.

              I agree with your sentiment about AI here but you’re picking up on details that are consistent both internally to the image and with lived experience.

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                no lug nuts on rear even though visible on front and that floating ass shit on the rear is fucked up. no license plate either.

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      I don’t think so. The dirt coming down from the handles is very consistent with rain on a vehicle after driving through the dry Alberta dust areas. I don’t see anything particularly inconsistent with a custom stretch job here. They’d need a way bulkier frame under a stretched truck like this, and the extra height is consistent with a tall frame and lift.

      Edit: sorry for the bad site, but here’s a 3 year old picture of another stretched dodge for you to compare with: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/fx5uyh/this_six_door_dodge_ram_i_saw_at_mesa_verde/

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    196 days ago

    Stanz: It was all fine until dickless parked his truck. Mayor: Is that true? Venkman: Yes, this man has no dick.

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    66 days ago

    That’s no truck, that’s an Air Force practice bombing target. Or should be.