And suddenly MAGA was vegan because it’s “patriotic” or something…
This may surprise you, but a lot of far/right people are vegan, and into permaculture, recycling, etc.
A lot of far right people are into whatever an influencer does because that’s their news.
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They are not vegan. They are into permaculture because they’re in a “manly man make money women stay home” cult and they can’t afford to have 5 kids and a stay at home wife on husband’s paycheck.
Those who have the room usually raise chickens at least, there’s centrally not a large intersection of vegans and far right people.
It’s the year of veganism (and Linux) in your household.
You put a 50% tariff on Brazil, your biggest exporter of meat, and you wonder why prices soar… Fucking dumbasses.
Lol, New Zealand imports more beef to the US than Brazil. Brazil is #5 at less than 10%.
Absolutely outdated source.
https://euromeatnews.com/Article-Brazilian-beef-exports-grow-in-June/8629?hl=en-GB
Among many, many, many other sources. So stfu if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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The sheer irony of this reply
Your original comment said “imports to the US” which is so incredibly hilariously wrong. Any which country “exports to” and “imports from”. You can’t have it both ways, doofus.
And the fact that you disagree with a given source doesn’t make it false, lmao. You have a right to disagree, but the fact that you deleted your comment says enough IMO.
Trump is trying to take your hamburgers away.
hamberders
Good for the environment:]
Great time for people to go vegan if they aren’t already
Beans are hella cheap!
I love beans. So many ways to eat them. I put white acre peas and tuna in mac & cheese a little while ago, and look forward to eating it again.
Any reduction in beef consumption is a win for the environment. I hope beef becomes completely unaffordable.
Edit: Instead of down voting, maybe do a cursory investigation into some of the top causes of climate change. It ain’t bean sprouts causing it.
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if production doesn’t decrease, the environment won’t notice.
What happens when demand decreases?
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advertising increases or prices drop or new markets are opened
Surely a store with no customers will still exist! Love this argument and how solid the logic is. Follow your little thought experiment farther than just a few steps.
so you have a plan to make “no customers”?
By out competing the meat vendors, yes. I’m not saying we need to outlaw them.
good luck
People are too emotionally invested in meat. They’d rather die in record high temperatures than go without or even reduce.
And I’m literally only talking about beef. Chicken may be atrocious from a cruelty perspective but it has a negligible environmental impact compared to beef. People who are emotionally invested in eating beef don’t see that they have the exact same mentality as anti-maskers did during the pandemic: doing this helps the entire human race and prevents the suffering of millions of people, but I refuse to even consider any change in my behavior because it makes me temporarily uncomfortable.
How can someone demand action from others against something like rising fascism when they won’t even change their lunch habits?
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I feel like the “I have to eat meat every day” people overlap a lot with the “I refuse to wear a mask” people. Are you thinking they’re largely different people?
Probably pretty large, considering half of US beef consumption is by males aged 50-65.
I don’t think you can separate people so cleanly.
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Yeah, and unlike gas prices going up there are readily available alternatives people can switch to easily with little cost.
MAYBE if we give Producers LESS Regulations and Competition they’ll DROP Prices?
-Donald Trump and ALSO Democrats!
Same story since at least Reagan. Surely next time it will work!
Corporate dictatorship, doing corporate dictatorship things, because it’s a corporate dictatorship.
I don’t know, it seems trickle down has been a great success… for the wealthy!
Retail beef prices are soaring, but I can tell you from the other end, auction sale prices of market weight steers sure as fuck hasn’t gone up that much.
Lot of squeezing happening in the middle somewhere. Curious, that one.
I dont want to sound condescending but this is pretty simple economics.
If you tax imports then vendors of local products will increase prices to match the imported goods.
The market for local beef is an oligopoly with only a few buyers, so it’s easy for them to manipulate the price.
The market for local beef is an oligopoly with only a few buyers, so it’s easy for them to manipulate the price
That’s an oligopsony, not an oligopoly which would have only a few sellers.
We noticed this when we went to a Texas Roadhouse. Their restaurant prices for steaks hadn’t gone up hardly at all and seemed very surprisingly reasonable, whole beef at the grocer is painful.
It’s been that way for a while. If there is no sale I can get a restaurant steak cheaper than the store.
Not sure where you are, but here in Alberta it’s more than double what it was a few years ago to buy a half steer, and I’m buying from a family member.
Living in Nebraska I can get shrimp, lobster , salmon, tuna steaks far cheaper than a fucking ribeye right now
Greedflation/ Profit Gouging
Must be low prices in the west due to farmers being forced to sell and the buyers know it. In the East beef prices are jaw dropping high.
Beef is delicious and nutritionally dense. But $20-$30 per pound is what just regular-ass steak costs in NYC, so pork it is.
Good quality beef, pork, and chicken are all around the same price here, $8-10 per pound. Fish has been cheap just because it’s so light, but it seems to have increased a lot, too. Salmon has gone from like $4 to $30 for a good-sized piece.
Where’s here for you?
99c/lb butts and shoulders all summer. It’s been great.
Or just get the lamb over rice. They say it’s lamb; I know it’s mystery meat, I don’t care. Great success.
If meat from foreign countries was vermin, it would cost way more than steak.
These are the corpses of vulnerable individuals who experienced cruelty, violence, and atrocity. There is nothing provided by their bodies and secretions that a human being needs to be healthy and happy that cannot be obtained more cheaply without the exploitation and abuse of vulnerable individuals.
While i agree with you, phrasing it like this is just getting the whole topic ridiculed by anyone who doesn’t already agree with you anyway…
But how would we know if that poster’s a vegan if they didn’t lecture us?
Where is the lecture?
You seem so personally attacked by someone responding to an article with facts of individuals suffering and suggesting we deviate.
Someone who rejects the content because they don’t like the form is an idiot. Unfortunately, all of us are idiots like that.
The real sticking point is that if they agree out loud then they have to stop eating meat or be a hypocritical, and they won’t accept either.
Please enlighten me on what makes this statement easy to ridicule? All they have said is these individuals deserve respect and we shoukd find proper alternatives elsewhere.
I think you should bemoan the people who ridicule rather than people asking for liberation of individuals.
Dear leader promised to lower grocery prices on day one so they must be low, right? Don’t believe your eyes, just believe in the plan they say.
We’re all going to be soo rich once the billionaires get theirs.
Let’s face it, as long as immigrants are scared of white men and women can’t leave kitchen without permission MAGA will be fine with pretty much anything. They see it as a price worth paying for the feeling of being respected again.
I got a feeling this administration is gonna release a an influenza in late October that only affects the turkey industry. If he could he would wreck Thanksgiving for everyone. Simply speaking, it’s the folks that prop this puppet not just dt that need removal. It’s that Stephen Miller bitch who needs his skull turned into an ashtray. It’s the inhuman Tom Homan , he’s despicable on his best day. If we can begin that process of removal , I then have a shred of faith that America may begin to recover. Unfortunately, some serious sausage is gonna need to be tubed up. Well ya’ll understand how it happens. No need to go on to any further detail here.
American beef is expensive because it is STRONG, not like the WEAK European beef that is cheap.
Please listen to the Beef and Dairy Network for survival tips.
