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This is the worst discourse strategy. Makes it incredibly easy to shrug of feminist arguments.
This is not radical or helpful as in changing discourse and help make the world a better place. It just helps to feel very radical. Those are two entirely different goals and the left is self marginalizing and generally loosing a lot because we mix them up too often.
Also you should not censor this critique, so please don’t
I really agree with you. This kind of discourse we see here in the comments are really harmful for everybody. Men and Women might be sympathetic to feminist arguments and want to learn are pushed away by memes calling all men rapists or even dangerous murderers. Think how you would react if you stumbled into a really misogynistic online forum like some incel forum - you’ll think “incels are bunch of idiots” and well, that is exactly what these memes here are doing for online feminism.
Dead men can’t call ICE.
There’s a graffiti on an abandoned building nearby, about 8 stories tall, that just says “STOP MEN.”
Strangely, neither myself nor any of the men I regularly hang with have been offended by this or felt targeted. It’s almost like random graffiti can’t hurt you.
Gender war propaganda on my wholesome communism app???
Not with me!
Amazing how either, so many people are missing the point, or pretending to so they can strawman the argument.
Literally all this graffiti says is that men who catcall can’t do that any more if they’re dead.
The point being, either stop catcalling on your own or people who have to experience that shit would love to stop you instead. It’s not about all men, just the ones who catcall, so either you feel called out, you’re missing the point or you’re pretending to.
Which is it?
Ever heard of the concept of collateral?
Or let’s take it a step further, neurodivergents who are already suffering from constant anxiety and false guilt that they feel like collateral, even if it’s baseless.
There’s no such thing as neurodivergents, there are neurodivergent people, but saying “neurodivergents” is othering.
We should know, we are.
Literally all this graffiti says is that men who catcall can’t do that any more if they’re dead.
I don’t think that’s quite right. Very close, but not it. It may be what was meant, but it’s not what it’s actually saying. It’s saying dead men can’t do bad things, which is like saying there are perks to men dying, it’s kind of a good thing. There’s someone who already responded to you who clearly favors that interpretation.
There are only perks to any group or individuals dying because they keep doing harmful things, if they would stop then there would be no more perks to them dying.
Personally we do not want them dead, merely to stop living in a society where they both harm and are harmed.
Yes, we know, but we had already blocked one such person, so we had to log out to see, we are glad we did block them because we don’t at all agree with actual misandry, or other bigotry.
This still ignores the implication that men dying is a good thing. I understand that’s not what YOU mean by it, but… That’s what it says. That’s the implication of the statement in a vacuum carried to its logical conclusion. That’s how a non-negligible portion of people are going to interpret it.
It comes across as having an overall favorable outlook on men dying, and most people don’t want to associate with someone who views their death as a net positive.
Well, we think they should think about it more then, we know critical thinking is not taught much in schools, but it might help with such tasks. It also might help them think about the things they could do in order to avoid having this kind of thing said in the first place, we hope.
Honey, stop. Men aren’t people, theyre huge bundles of irrational outrage looking for an outlet. They literally can’t hear what youre saying.
Glad to see all the comments here are perfectly normal.
Dead Muslims can’t make terrorist attacks
Dead racists can’t get banned.
Provably untrue, if any are willing to give their lives for science.
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Is there even a remotely comfortable place for people to even talk about subjects like this without it devolving into “not all X” arguments and completely missing the point? I basically can’t talk about any of my day to day experiences with sexism without fearing the majority of lemmy users. I shouldn’t be fucking afraid dammit.
On the internet without curated access? No.
I have no tolerance for insecure men who are scared of their bad behaviour ever being held to account. I 💯 agree with you.
If 10% of the men that got offended by this shit would get offended by their mate catcalling or groping someone those behaviours would disappear in a week.
How? We’re not friends with those people. The Fratbro Alliance is a self contained circlejerk.
guarantee you know some blokes that treat women like shit at least sometimes if you’re at all social.
approx 15% of Aussie men admit they would rape a kid, most often married wealthy men with kids. https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/Identifying and understanding child sexual offending behaviour and attitudes among Australian men.pdf
That’s probably the most heinous sexual offense there is. I’ve been at a work function where a guy pinned me against a wall and insisted I come home with him, everyone just looked on with a couple of awkward laughs. I’m not saying your friends are all bastards, but you’ve gotta have a pretty narrow or pretty small social circle to avoid running into predatory men.
Yes but then they would have to get angry at their bros, not just at bitches. It’s totally different. We wouldn’t understand.
Bless you kind fae.
Happy to help!
The joke: Hey if you kill men that catcall they stop.
The comments: How dare you.
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true :3
What does one have to block to stop seeng /r/twoxchomosomes here?
Just finish harassing all women off the platform.
Or bring civilization to your garbage gender.
Either works.
Wait I liked that sub many years ago. Did something happen to it?
no.
Ok so he was just anti-fem I guess. For all his upvotes I thought maybe twoX fell to runaway toxicity like FDS/RedPill or was taken over by terfs and I was just OOTL
I wish we could just kill [other gender]
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Nice cencorship, you’re doing great
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Is this a kill all men thing or like
A threat saying to fight back against catcallers
Is this a kill all men thing or like
A threat saying to fight back against catcallers
Rockin’ tune!
