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known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week
Tl;dr
fuck that
I’d consider it for:
- The right job
- The right money
But it’s going to have to be the kind of job I would put in those kinds of hours for free, and get paid at least triple what is reasonably expected.
I would not.
yeah, i don’t think a job exists where i could sustain that for any period of time before my inevitable mental and physical collapse.
Maybe it’s age talking but I’m at the point where my goal is the job that pays me the most for the least amount of time spent working.
I’m much happier working my “845” (8am-4pm 5 days a week, ideally less) and then being done so I can spend as much time enjoying my life.
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.
Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896
It honestly blows my mind how these “leaders” get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.
Nothing to do with productivity. It’s all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. “How dare the little people work as little time as me?”
Yeah they’re not going for productivity, they’re an AI company. They just want the appearance of it to juice up their valuation or to stroke an executive’s ego.
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for
anythingremotely knowledgework, especially over a long period.How an MBA read this.
Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.
People making 400k… Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about
Every time I’m on Lemmy someone scoffs at many times the most I’ve ever made in a year. I make about 30-35k a year. 😂
Uh… Just saying… you (or others reading) need to think in much bigger numbers for that extreme of a schedule… Entry level devs at FANG make around that amount of money… and we didn’t work nearly that many hours at the office…
Entry level makes 400k?
Total package including signing bonus stock
More like $200k in total comp (but I suppose if the stock rockets like 5x after you’re hired, it can end up being $400k). Senior positions can make > $400k/yr in total comp. Some companies have back-loaded vesting schedules so they can get rid of you before the majority of your options vest though.
I would like to see the data set where you pulled this anecdote from. This starting number for annual comp is not supported by any publicly available data for entry level in any meaningful quantity.
Levels.fyi
For the absolute bottom rung, not exactly 400k, but around there. Also depends on the city and team.
The main point is that if you’re gonna work a 996, you better be making at least $1M/year or more (honestly probably more, I tend to undershoot salaries) for it to be worth it. Otherwise, just get a normal FANG job if you only want to make $400k (lower end for FANG).
Can you post a link this 400k entry level job?
The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.
People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That’s sad.What’s really sad about it is that most of the shit they believe is complete sci-fi bullshit and they won’t build a super-intelligence nor escape the planet no matter how much of their finite time they pump into these futile efforts.
Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.
Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.
I wouldn’t do it for money… I’d do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)
Will they be introducing company stores next?
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That counts as your break. 🤨
Give me a decent chunk of the company so I make proportional profits. Otherwise, no thanks.
Fuck right off.
Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.
A sense of pride and accomplishment, right?
Right…?
As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying “go fuck yourself”
If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.
Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.
I did it (we called it 6x12s) for about 2-3 years in my 30s. At the time it felt worth it; food, lodging, and transportation were all covered as well. I don’t really regret it most days but looking back years later I think it may have damaged friendships more than I’d realized until recently.
There’s no fucking way I’d do it now. Now I’m just one bad day away from rage quitting and retiring. Unfortunately I’m in a great position with a great boss and a reasonable work load and ample coverage and support and never been denied time off so that bad day isn’t likely to come anytime soon.
After 6 months you’d have enough to retire to Vietnam. Another 6 and you’d have enough to pay yourself a low salary forever.
Another 6 and you’d fund a small house in a smaller town where you can retire, and another 6 and you’d be dead from stress.
Culture revolution, 996, USA has imported so many good stuff from China. Next one should be removing president term limit I guess?
Already on that. In progress.
USA hasn’t yet built anything like “three gorges” hydroelectric plant, tho
We did enough environmental damage with other stuff so that the mega hydro plant is not necessary
Suppose I agree, but the plant is cool.
Mega-NPP maybe?
I’m pretty sure half these articles are issued by the companies themselves just to get people outraged and talking about this, just so that they can test the waters and see how many people will defend it.
Let’s kill every billionaire, and we’ll solve lots of the problems.
The French Revolution didn’t prevent the rise of French billionaires.
Yeah, you need to do a yearly cull.
