• CaptainBlagbird
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    21 day ago

    This is a great example of how conspiracy theories are: There are some bits that are quite true, but they are connected in such a weird and completely wrong way that you wonder how it even came to this.

  • @[email protected]
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    3365 days ago

    Electrician here, I’ve certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain’t pleasant.

    And those generation alternators must be very confused.

    • @[email protected]
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      785 days ago

      As a non-electrician, I’ve also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.

    • @[email protected]
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      325 days ago

      You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓

      And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC… hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻

      • @[email protected]
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        185 days ago

        Ah but your nerves rely on electricity so actually you only feel electricity, checkmate athiests

      • @[email protected]
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        325 days ago

        No no, work around hv and you’ll feel electricity even if you’re not doing hot work a lot of the time you can feel the inductive fields around you.

        • @[email protected]
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          First of all, there are no “inductive fields”. There are electric and magnetic fields and what you can feel or sometimes hear are the electric fields.

          Edit: I don’t understand all the downvotes, but whatever. Specifically what you can hear near high voltage power lines sometimes is partial discharge which is caused by high electric field strengths.

          • @[email protected]
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            195 days ago

            Electromagnetic induction is what you’re feeling and it is indeed creating an inductive field.

            • @[email protected]
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              05 days ago

              Electromagnetic fields induce electric fields, so you’re saying these inductive fields that you can feel are electric fields or do you feel the magnetic field of the induced currents?

              • @[email protected]
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                105 days ago

                An induced magnetic field is how you feel electricity around high voltage. What even is your argument here because what you’re saying in large part makes no sense.

                • @[email protected]
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                  15 days ago

                  My argument is that you can’t feel magnetic fields. What is yours, because all you write is utter nonsense. Electric fields are induced, not magnetic fields, it’s called Faraday’s law of induction, inductive field is not a technical term. You get a magnetic field from an induced current which is caused by the electric field in a conductor.

          • @[email protected]
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            45 days ago

            What kind of fields?

            When PD, arcing or sparking occurs, electromagnetic waves propagate away from the fault site in all directions which contact the transformer tank and travel to earth (ground cable) where the HFCT is located to capture any EMI or EMP within the transformer, breaker, PT, CT, HV Cable, MCSG, LTC, LA, generator, large hv motors, etc.

            Electromagnetic ones!

            • @[email protected]
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              05 days ago

              Yes, EM-Waves consist of an Electric and an orthogonal Magnetic field, these are linked, one can’t exist without the other, otherwise you wouldn’t get a wave. Partial discharge which is a form of corona discharge is caused by Electric fields.

              • @[email protected]
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                85 days ago

                Neat. So tell me, am I wrong in any of my statements this far. No? So what is the point of this tedious interaction?

                • @[email protected]
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                  45 days ago

                  You’re citing random parts of a wikipedia article that talks about an effect caused by an electric field and claim that it’s caused by a magnetic field. You’re an unscientific troll.

    • Una
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      55 days ago

      Or did you felt it? vsauce music

    • MrsDoyle
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      65 days ago

      I may be an outlier here, but I’ve experienced mild electric shock from touching a random bare cable sticking out of a wall, and I found it weirdly pleasant. Refreshing, almost.

    • @[email protected]
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      14 days ago

      Fellow electrician here, I’m convinced that electricity is magic. I’ve only been in electric for 2 years or so, but I’ll be damned if I know how that shit works. The copper touches together and that equals light, or motors spinning, or whatever have you. How? Idk, smarter people figured that out, I’m just here to make sure the damned drywallers don’t cover up our magic copper

      • @[email protected]
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        14 days ago

        Look up “potential difference” and that should make everything make a little more sense.

        Basically, the voltage component of electricity wants to flow where the potential is less than itself. In a 120v circuit, the neutral is bonded to ground at the main for a reference of 0v, and you hot leg will find the path of least resistance to that 0v (through the devices we put in line of that circuit, be it lights, motors, etc). The current, or load, in amps, is the work being done by those devices in conjunction with the designed resistance.

        Think of a simple incandescent light bulb. The filament has a certain level of resistance that’s designed to sustain a glow when power is applied to it. The 120v potential, trying to reach 0v ground, passes through that filament (the load), making it glow (the current draw is the amount of amps necessary to achieve its full brightness). A motor is similar; power passes through the windings, generating a magnetic field that react with magnets and spin the motor.

        Basically, your voltage drives the power through its path to ground, and current is drawn by work being done. V multiplied by A is Watts (kW), or power consumed.

  • @[email protected]
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    305 days ago

    Now, i usually don’t advocate for book burning, but this one is making a compelling case

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    My brother in America I have felt electricity and I can say exactly what it’s like.

    If you still don’t believe though I will gladly share the secret of how to feel it for yourself. You need only bring a fork.

  • @[email protected]
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    434 days ago

    Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.

    Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.

  • @[email protected]
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    224 days ago

    I somehow have the feeling that this is simply ragebait… if not, well… can someone please take away the printing press from those people? Please?

  • @[email protected]
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    825 days ago

    We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

    • @[email protected]
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      155 days ago

      My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically “home schooling” because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical “home schooling” designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.

    • @[email protected]
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      265 days ago

      We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we’re non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said “secular curriculum” on the cover. We told them, “you don’t understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it’s way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum.”

    • @[email protected]
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      24 days ago

      as a person from across the ocean, i don’t get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don’t you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers.

      • @[email protected]
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        221 hours ago

        The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum and there is a whole industry built to cater to that market. Unfortunately that includes books that deliver the kind of stupidity that we see above. Also, I think it is difficult for those outside the US to understand just how much we idolize individualism over any sense social responsibility here.

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      It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

      The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and… yeah. It’d be like a flat-earther in orbit. It’s beyond ironic: it’s just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.

      I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.

    • 𝚝𝚛𝚔
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      85 days ago

      It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

      But also;

      I am a Christian

      How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?

      “It’s all bollocks, but I still believe it.”

      • @[email protected]
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        215 days ago

        There’s nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it’s just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn’t be arguing about religion it’s fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it’s not testable, it’s not falsifiable it’s got absolutely nothing to do with science.

        • @[email protected]
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          24 days ago

          I was thinking about how to reply here in a meaningful way but I think your response encapsulates the core of it pretty well. Lots more I could say, but would lead to long essay and probably of limited interest to the topic at hand.

          • @[email protected]
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            24 days ago

            Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don’t really get is why there’s a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is “well, yes, that’s pretty clever - of course god would do it that way” or “in this we better understand our maker” instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool.

            • @[email protected]
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              223 hours ago

              I’ve observed several possible explanations:

              1. People are taught certain doctrines and will not question those doctrines - ever. If some new information conflicts with those doctrines, then their faith is being attacked.
              2. Some are deeply invested in what a certain doctrine allows or prohibits. Think about the sick rationalizations for slavery in the US back in the 1800s supposedly based on the teachings of the Bible. (Sorry, slavery fails the “love your neighbor as yourself” test). To change their thinking means that they have to admit that they were wrong or give up some privilege or perceived position of superiority.
              3. They self identify with those beliefs and anything that contradicts that belief is a personal attack. Basic arrogance.

              From my perspective, the teachings of Christ were about humility. Admitting that you were/could be/are wrong and being willing to change. That’s the whole core of acknowledging your own selfishness (sin), moving to repentance (change) and seeking God’s help in that process. Being combative is not compatible with that, in my views.

        • @[email protected]
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          55 days ago

          I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth.

  • @[email protected]
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    785 days ago

    Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity.

    I wish most electricity waa from renewable energy

    • @[email protected]
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      525 days ago

      Lots of it is generated by burning biologically sequestered solar energy from hundreds of millions of years ago.

      • da_cow (she/her)
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        25 days ago

        Well technically its still electricity created by the sun. Plants absorbed Carbon dioxide, turned it into carbon with the power of the sun, died and got buried deep below.

      • Diplomjodler
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        65 days ago

        Which is not renewable. Unless you can wait for a couple of million years.

          • @[email protected]
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            45 days ago

            The process still exists, its just limited to rare environments, and will never be the scale as it once was.

            • @[email protected]
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              15 days ago

              The thing is that back in Carboniferous, there were the first trees but no decomposers for that so the process still exists but there are other processes that make it much more unlikely

        • Monkey With A Shell
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          25 days ago

          The planet can, maybe the next species of critters to pick up a pointy stick can make use of it after it resets itself.

        • @[email protected]
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          35 days ago

          One of my favorite insane conspiracy theories is that petroleum is constantly produced and is a renewable resource but that fact is hidden from us because it would mean “they” wouldn’t be able to impose carbon taxes and create more profit from other energy sources.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 days ago

            I suppose it isn’t completly a lie. It just takes 100 million years under some pretty specific circumstances, but there’s likely places where it’s currently being produced naturally right now…

            • @[email protected]
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              The theory is that there is biotic petroleum(the oil we know) formed from biomass from millions of years ago and there is abiotic petroleum that constantly forming from carbon sources deep in the Earth.

              Depending on what degree of delusion, they either believe that there is more petroleum being produced than we use or there is less being produced than we need and we need to offset the deficit with other forms of energy.

              As you can imagine, the believers in limitless abiotic petroleum tend to have some overlap with young Earth creationists and flat-earthers.

  • @[email protected]
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    2055 days ago

    This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they’d simply said “electricity is god”. The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there’s no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It’s anti-education.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.

      • @[email protected]
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        225 days ago

        Actually there is also religions promoting science and research.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_attitudes_towards_science

        A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison, Sultan Bashir Mahmood, Hossein Nasr consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly inspired by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Certain advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians were motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, such as Al-Khwarizmi’s (c. 780–850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,[18] and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry in order to determine the direction of the Qibla, the times of Salah prayers, and the dates of the Islamic calendar.[19] These new studies of math and science would allow for the Islamic world to get ahead of the rest of the world. ‘With these inspiration at work, Muslim mathematicians and astronomers contributed significantly to the development to just about every domain of mathematics between the eight and fifteenth centuries"[20]

        Many Muslims agree that doing science is an act of religious merit, even a collective duty of the Muslim community.[61] According to M. Shamsher Ali, there are around 750 verses in the Quran dealing with natural phenomena. According to the Encyclopedia of the Quran, many verses of the Quran ask mankind to study nature, and this has been interpreted to mean an encouragement for scientific inquiry,[62] and the investigation of the truth.[62] Some include, “Travel throughout the earth and see how He brings life into being” (Q29:20), “Behold in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding …” (Q3:190)

        • @[email protected]OP
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          155 days ago

          Yes, but the religious accapt only the amount of science until it don’t denies their dogma.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              The only religions which accept and foment all science, are the atee ones (buddism, taoism…), because they are centred in the own spiritual perfection. There isn’t any science which denies their philosophy, even the opposite.

              “If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change.”

              Dalai Lama

          • @[email protected]
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            35 days ago

            Religion doesn’t exist outside society; that dogma is determined by what is useful to those in society with the power to promote it. This is why under the multi-cultural Ottoman Empire they came up with all sorts of justifications to expand the definition of “people of the book” to include basically every significant religious minority except Hindus, and that was only a matter of time, and why fundamentalists who want to return to the 1300s were promoted funded by the British/US/Saudis.

            Same applies to any ideology or philosophy. To pretend otherwise is liberal idealism.

    • @[email protected]
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      215 days ago

      I think its more than what you claimed… They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.