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Going through the comments, it’s mostly Trump being an agent of China, of the Saudis, the Israelis, and mostly a Russian agent.
I unfortunately don’t think there’s a way out of this for the US population unless people start to accept that Trump is a very distinctly American character, the culmination of what the right wing in the US has been working towards forever. And that the problem the US has is an internal one. Trump is an inevitable consequence of the US political environment, and he or someone like him would’ve come to power sooner or later, even if Russia didn’t exist as an external factor. Unless people accept that, I don’t think there’s any coming back from this for the US population. It’s just going to get worse. And it unfortunately will also bring chunks of the rest of World down with it in the process.
As long as it makes him richer…
And if he makes everyone else dirt poor, more power to him.
Of course. That is the goal.
Well, to be accurate, Putin is intend on sabotaging US dominance. HitlerPig is just his hired muscle.
More like China, Putin (and his friends) didn’t win a lot since the second Trump election
Putin’s primary objective is to cause enormous chaos in all aspects of American life, according to Foundations in Geopolitics, the Russian playbook:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Any “stuff” he gets - land, territory, money, etc.- is all gravy. All he really wants is for America to devolve into such disorder and chaos, that their influence in the world dissolves.
Yes absolutely but that will not be Russia who will be the winner at the end.
Right now China is moving it’s pieces really well and making a lot of allies that will last longer that a war and force will bring
It’s not about Russia emerging the global winner, at least not at this stage. It’s about destroying America’s global hegemony, weakening their position in NATO, and distracting them from any Russian efforts to rebuild, and expand, the Soviet Empire.
China would probably emerge the big ECONOMIC winner from this, but Russia would be the big political winner, after controlling Europe. They’d probably be satisfied just splitting the world in two, and giving Asia (and manufacturing) to China, and keep Europe (and banking) for Russia, and share the Americas for exploitation.
as a citizen of Earth I say: good.
Yeah. I’m sure China dominance is going to be so much better /s
They do bomb far fewer people. That’s an upgrade.
Give them half a chance, they’re currently working on internal ethnic cleansing.
Once that’s done, or concurrently, they’ll move on to some blatant warmongering in the South China Sea, including the upcoming invasion of Taiwan.
Wow, who knew a Russian asset might try and “sabotage US dominance”?
That’s just Unthinkable.
These fucking writers need to stop acting like they have an IQ of 76.
It is unfair to call trump a “Russian asset”. He is just as much a Saudi asset.
Not to mention an Israeli asset.
And The Heritage Foundation clearly have him on their puppet strings as well.
If he was only being controlled by a single malicious entity, he might be breaking a few less things.
Heritage foundation gets a lot of money from those same people
Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
When is it going to stop being “He’s so incompetent, it’s like he’s doing it on purpose!” and start being “Oh, he’s doing this on purpose…”? This has been obvious for so long now.
I’d say it’s part incompetence, part intentional sabotage. He truly is a fucking moron, but he also hates the US.
He’s easily manipulated by corrupt people, including those who don’t have the best interests of the U.S. at heart.
Like seeing Tim Cook gift him that golden statue so apple gets no tariffs…like everyone can see and stroke his ego.
Which is funny because its like he’s an 8 year old boy. Ohh gold. Doesn’t yet realize Platinum is worth more, etc.
I’ll take Russian Asset for 1000, Alex.
No, please don’t give him that much credit. If you saw him run a casino, you’d swear he was doing it on purpose, but he isn’t. He really just is that dumb.
I’m not saying he’s not also in Putin’s pocket, but don’t try to convince me that he has the brains necessary to make sabotage look like incompetence. He’s nowhere near that clever.
I’m not saying he’s “brilliantly” obfuscating his intent. For one, it’s blatantly obvious. Second, it doesn’t take intelligence to do what he’s doing. Third, my original point is that everyone from media to government officials are clearly in denial about what’s obviously happening, and are constantly downplaying the seriousness of his actions by attributing them solely to incompetence. There’s no chance of countering somebody if you can’t accept the reality of what they’re doing.
At this point, I assume only future historians will have the wherewithal to actually point out the intent behind it all.
it doesn’t take much intelligence to destroy things under you over the course of 4-8 years. He’s very obviously incompetent because he’s doing this on purpose.
it doesn’t take much intelligence to destroy things
“A bull in a China shop” is a comparison I often use.
It’s fast and easy to break things. Any idiot can swing a sledge hammer at random stuff they don’t understand.
Fixing and building takes a lot longer. Also takes a lot more knowledge, skill and expense.
There hasn’t been a doubt about his intentions for a long time. He is, however, likely taking many actions because someone told him to, he heard a sound bite on Faux News, or he perceived some slight from social media.
That was always Putin’s goal. Was known as far back as 2016.
Since 1997, actually, when The Foundations of Geopolitics was published. Brexit is in there, too.
So far, it’s all going pretty swimmingly, though Ukraine is putting up more resistance than anticipated.
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That’s why he was put into power.
No ‘seems’ about it. His entire purpose is to put all public on firesale to private interests. Its the same as when he was trying badly to sell New York real estate in the 80s to the Japanese specifically, even though there was a real fear about how much they were purchasing giving them too much control over our land and businesses.
Especially notable to me that the article made its point without even getting into things like Trump effectively handing leadership in EV technology and alternative energy broadly to China, or giving the Chinese chip-making industry just the boost it needed to potentially be able to supply China’s needs on its own, or making the US so hostile to scientific reseach that China will likely end up leading the world in that as well.
Yes - he could hardly do more to more thoroughly destroy the US’s standing in the world if he set out to deliberately do exactly that.
Oddly though, that at least provides him with a bit of cover - if he wasn’t such a blithering idiot, I’d suspect that that really was his goal. But I don’t think he’s even capable of maintaining focus on a straightforward strategy, much less a subtle and multilayered one.
making the US so hostile to scientific reseach that China will likely end up leading the world in that as well.
That’s already the case
And that’s scary because the standard for scientific publishing in China was mostly shit. I haven’t kept up, but I hope they’ve cleaned up their act. No hate on China, but their actions were speaking volumes not too long ago.
I would’ve guessed that but didn’t know it. Thanks for the clarification.
Welcome to 9 years ago…
That’s been the plan since 2016.
since long before that.
Facts! You can honestly go back to Nixon and watergate and even JFK’s assassination to see how and who the GOP really are and have always have been.
I wonder why? Hey let’s ask his boss, Putin. “Why is the obese imbecile being such a cunt…?”
Ok, this just in from Putin:
“Paedophile pisstapes”
Wow, that could mean Putin was watching Grey’s Anatomy. Or it could mean that Putin has videos of russian asset tRUMP pissing over the kids that he had just raped.
