- Source says Putin demanding control of entire Donetsk region
- Trump says Zelenskiy has ‘gotta make a deal’
- Zelenskiy reported to have rejected demand
- Zelenskiy to visit Trump on Monday with European back-up
- Europeans say they will maintain or increase pressure on Russia
WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/KYIV, Aug 16 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a deal to end the war with Russia because “Russia is a very big power, and they’re not”, after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have demanded more Ukrainian land.
After the two leaders met in Alaska on Friday, Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Putin had offered to freeze most front lines if Kyiv ceded all of Donetsk, the industrial region that is one of Moscow’s main targets, a source familiar with the matter said.
Zelenskiy should offer putin alaska. See how the orange turd reacts to that.
Imagine what Putin could’ve built in Russia for the same cost as this stupid war. Every city could have a Los Vegas Sphere in it.
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And he found out all by himself
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops and all weapons in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
Threatening nuclear war should never be an option. Nukes are there to prevent nuclear war from happening, if that makes any sense.
And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide
doesn’t putin have cancer? what can putin expect if this war fails? does putin actually have the incentives of a reasonable and calm decision maker as your analysis seems to assume, or are his incentives more in line with the extremity of desperation and corruption? If he fails, suicide-by-nuclear-armageddon could just be a way of taking his power back. If he can’t play who’s to say he wont stab big holes in his ball- all our balls- before he fucks off home? What makes you think that genocidal maniac won’t burn the whole world down if he can’t be king if he thinks that’s within his power?
It’s entirely possible that Russia don’t actually have any functional nuclear weapons anymore but I agree I don’t think we can risk it.
Russian oligarchs and citizens wont allow it I bet
In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Trump signalled that he and Putin had discussed land transfers and security guarantees for Ukraine, and had “largely agreed”.
“I think we’re pretty close to a deal,” he said, adding: “Ukraine has to agree to it. Maybe they’ll say ‘no’.”
Asked what he would advise Zelenskiy to do, Trump said: “Gotta make a deal.”
“Look, Russia is a very big power, and they’re not,” he added.
Yeah, Russia, the very big power, who takes three years and over a million casualties and still hasn’t completed a “special military operation” that totally isn’t even an invasion.
Trump’s brain is trapped in 1970, so for now I guess so are we.
Brain?
1970? More like 1950, kindergarten times.
I agree that Russia has performed pathetically in the war, yet European governments still seem to be shitting themselves given their scrambling to increase defence spending. Russia is both strong and weak.
A lot of the increase in defense spending seems to have been in response to America being ruled by Trump and Europe realizing they can’t rely on us for protection anymore. Trump has talked about leaving NATO. When your strongest ally seems to be backing down from defending you, you’re gonna increase defense spending to make sure you can still defend yourself.
There’s also a chance that America will not only be an unreliable ally but an aggressor. They have to defend against that as well as what’s left of Russia’s capabilities (which will again be temporarily strengthened if they sack and destroy Ukraine).
My understanding is that NATO currently has the capacity to absolutely wreck Russia in every engagement, until they run out of ammo. So the new spending is supposed keep them from running out.
Ammo factories ain’t cheap and even getting old machines running takes a tonne of time and money. Fun fact I knew a guy in northern Idaho who worked at an ammo factory with machines that dated back to WW1 though they have been upgraded, he was a racist prick.
It’s unfortunate that the machine upgrades didn’t improve his racism.
No but the brain lesiones definitely made his racism so much more blatant.
What a fucking limp wristed LOSER. Trump, you’re nothing but an insecure little bitch ass pussy who thinks he’s a real tough boi and you know it.
Promises of security guarantees from Trump or Putin are worthless.
Do not give one inch of land to that piece of human shit.
Does anyone realistically think Ukraine can take their land back through continuing the war? Europe is willing to buy American weapons, but is that enough?
Edit: Reply for downvotes, I can’t really understand if you dont state why.
They almost did. Then Elon turned off skylink. It’s hard to muster a counter offensive when your tactics are dictates by a single person.
So, to answer your question. Yes, I do think they could. If they were actually allowed to fight off the leash.
Elon should have gone to jail for that shit.
Yes, it make take decades but i believe it possible just like it took india 200 years to do so
Ukraine has been doing pretty goddamn well for the position they are in. If anybody actually goes and intervenes in Ukraines favor they win, end of story. Course at this point Trump would try and send US troops to support Russia but we’re pretending the US isn’t just a blatant Russian asset rn
Friday: France and Germany send troops to help Ukraine.
Saturday: Trump sends marines to help Russia to help deescalate things. GOP demands Trump be giving Nobel peace prize for his historic move.
If things in Russia keep going the way they are, Ukraine can take Russia too. Not that anybody wants Russia.
because “Russia is a very big power, and they’re not”
Sound familiar?
Thanks for choosing the bad guys side, morons. Choosing to fuck world peace to share in the split while being the patsy all along.
war criminals meeting with ear criminals yet not arresting any of each other. Odd huh?
I know it’s just a typo but now I can’t stop imagining the sort of ear crimes these fuckers commit
They were caught having aural sex.
You ever see Reservoir Dogs? That’s got some ear crime in it.
“Just cough in your goddamn buck like everybody else.”
Oh, shit, I thought they just made Ska music.
Just tell him you need 2 weeks to think it over, but tell him you need 4 days to think it over 3 times, then you’ll do it “tomorrow” and delay 2 more days.
He’ll forget, and you can start over.
WTF do you think Putin is doing? He isn’t in his face 24/7. Occasional dip in and out.
Clown. Give the homicidal maniac a meter and they’ll come back for the kilometer. Actually cedeing this would be giving the kilometer considering they’ve tried this approach with Crimea… who knows what they’d come back for in another couple years.
Considering Russia broke a sovereignty agreement in order to start this war, regardless of their motive, AND violated Georgian sovereignty a couple years before THAT in a bid to annex part of THAT country, AND is attempting to annex parts of Moldova through threat of arms…who in their right mind would agree to ANY peace deal with Russia? It’s not even worth the paper it’s signed on. You’d literally have to have cheese for a brain.
Spineless, fawning fop of a leader.
DEATH TO TRAITORS
