Sorry for the headline. I don’t know why they don’t just say it’s Vivek Ramaswamy.
To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.
He can’t realistically win potus, so he’s only running to angle for {ed: Worst. Ever.} Sec of State position in the next GQP admin
Oh god, you’re probably correct. I hope something unfortunate happens to him to spare the country from years more of this dude’s fucking bullshit.
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“ in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China”
OMG, so funny. That is even more unlikely than this tool becoming POTUS and I am not sure that would happen even if the rest of them were tragically killed.
Oh yes we’ll also colonize Saturn and end world poverty. College degrees for all! Easy to blather a bunch of nonsense goals with no regard for the attainability or necessity.
Given how many jokes I’ve made about Trump ordering Ukraine to “just surrender” in a second term, I’m not mad, I’m just sad that my low opinion of the world is justified and accurate.
Guys like Vivek don’t care about history because it’s not new or exciting.
It is couter to their perogative. Lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more its not an argument its just full on say anything at whatever opportunity. just say shit that doesn’t even make sense and defend it. Its not stupidity, its a strategy. He knows the base just go with anything violent, racist, bigot related, you know all the most vile parts that humanity has to offer.
it’s because he wants russian dark money
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Dont give this stupid ass a platform. Just dont talk about him. All the negative press is what gave credence to Trump by the anti crowd.
I think it’s a little too late for that at this point. And I doubt posting this on Lemmy will get anyone to vote for him.
100% THIS.
I’m so glad he feels confident enough to do such a thing.
You would have thought that not been Ukrainian would make him think he has no right to make that decision, fortunately not.
Yeah. The USA is the one supplying the most monetary help, but I doubt Ukraine would just give up, if that help stopped.
US is supplying the most military hardware, the EU leads when it comes to finances.
Oh I’m sure China would be absolutely thrilled if the US was soft on Russia.
Indians are the biggest chuds in /pol/, second only to Yanks.
Vivek Ramaswamy is a fucking ghoul, and so is Putin, but if — like some commenters in this thread — you are concerned about WW3, then Vivek’s position here is less bellicose than the official American “Push NATO right up to Russia’s border, plant missiles five minutes from Moscow, deny Russian access to the warm water port at Crimea” position. It is also the position most likely to end a war that has already killed half a million people. What Vivek offers is what Putin started the war to obtain.
There is some evidence — various polls, and also the fact that a civil war raged for eight years — indicating that a sizable portion of the population in the contested regions of eastern Ukraine is either ambivalent about or would prefer Russian rather than Kyiv rule. Granting them this would probably not be worse than killing another half million people in Ukraine.
So why not have a vote in the matter without the goons with guns standing over.
Russia last all credibility when they invaded. That’s their problem.
OP’s comment history says a lot
What does it say? It’s not that long, go ahead and read all of it and tell me what you think it says about me.
People curious enough to look are free to do so :)
I want you to. You specifically.
There were multiple polls before the invasion, and some probably contradict each other, but before we go off on an internet argument digging through polls, my main point is that the war is killing hundreds of thousands of people, half a million already, and nudging us toward world war 3, and since Putin probably won’t back down for security and economic reasons, it’s either compromise or drag this out to the last Ukrainian. At minimum, if you want to end this shit, a binding guarantee to not join NATO should be on the table, and Russian access to Sevastopol. I would wager that the main reason Russia wants to retain some of eastern Ukraine is to maintain a border buffer against NATO.
*For an example, this 2015 survey polled Ukrainians on a range of topics and broke down the results by region. On page 18, residents of Donbas are asked the question, “How do you evaluate your attitude toward each of the following countries?” For Russia, the breakdown is as follows: 5% very warm, 39% warm, 42% neutral, 5% cold, 1% very cold, 9% difficult to answer or no answer.
**To clarify, the survey does not show the Donbas wanting to join Russia (see page 22: 75% want to remain part of Ukraine in some form) or welcoming an invasion (page 27, surprise most people do not want war), but it does show that a plurality preferred economic ties to Russia (33%) over economic ties to the EU (21%) (page 41), and that only 16% in the Donbas wanted to join NATO (page 43).
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Never vote Conservative/Republican/Tory or whatever name these RW crazies choose.
It will never not blow my mind that people alive during the cold War and all that drama are like yeah… liberal Americans are the enemy! We have more on common with Russia so we feel comfortable backing them in anything.
These debates seem more and more like massive focus groups. They get the non-contenders to say preposterous things with two goals: see what sticks and propagate lies.
It’s the one part of Idiocracy we’re actually performing.
Elections are no longer about who’s the best for the job. It’s now a popularity contest. Intelligence and capability mean nothing anymore.
And honestly I partially blame Obama for being to relaxed with the memes. Yeah it was funny af but it opened the gates to what we have now.
It’s like how satire can quickly become real. So… Thanks Obama…
Elections are no longer about who’s the best for the job.
They were never about that. It was about which person will get my group what I want. The country could do fine for a long time without any political leadership. The mechanisms of government would just continue to operate. Look at the last admin, how many empty posts were there. I bet your trash still got picked up, I bet you still had to pay taxes, etc.
Modernizing engagement by going on talk shows and using social media is smart. The message is what makes the difference. Republicans stopped caring about a message that progressed the country around Bush jr. Ever since then been a decline into tribalism and gaslighting. At least Obama ran on something positive.
