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No one has said police yet?
that’s not a job, some people are just Assigned Cop At Birth
They don’t take it seriously enough. They go play army man.
I was thinking more that the general population takes them too seriously.
I disagree. They have the ability to kill people with little repurcussion
And yet people thank them for their “service” and put “thin blue line” flags in their yards. That is the kind of “too seriously” I am referring to.
That’s just cause those people buy into the delusion the cops have.
But I agree with your overall point
Playing army would mean keeping their cool in hostile territory.
YOU know that. They don’t seem to.
Actually it means raping brutalizing and killing civilians in territory where you are not welcome
Honestly in my line of work I seriously considered Police, but when I noticed it’s essentially a cult I noped out of there
the problem with police is that
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the people who should work as a police officer don’t want to be a police officer
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the people that shouldn’t work as a police want to be a police officer
I don’t think police is inherently a bad thing. It just happens to be because people who want power over others should not have power over others.
similar story with politicians. I’d prefer an honest politician. but the process of picking them selects for those who are dishonest.
Exactly, couldn’t have worded it better. Obviously not all of them all of the time, but it is what it is
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Middle management.
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Field technicians.
“Influencer”
The question was about jobs.
What is the definition of a job? I guess if someone said musician, that would be a career instead? Is a self employed contractor a job or is every client a job? Does an actor have one job or many?
I considered a revenue stream to be a job but I’m not sure now.
I guess the definition of job is
vocation/occupation that generates your main financial income
Main financial income
So if I have 3 positions of employment, only the part time gig that makes me 60% of my income is my job, but not the full time one, or the part time one that makes me a bit of money on the side?
Well, the main sources of income.
A robbery could be a job too, depends on the point of view
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“Influencer” is a “job.” They didn’t mention getting paid.
Part time dog-walker.
Someone is bitter they can’t make a good salary being on YouTube 🤣
Being a general manager at any retail outlet
it’s actually a blue collar job where they do quite a bit of physical labor, at least the good ones. I have more respect for that then a lot of white collar jobs.
You probably shouldn’t decide how much to respect someone for what job they do. Unless they do like a really sketchy or immoral “job”, like a hitman or a scammer or something.
I think the only reason to respect someone is for what they do.
What better measure is there, even if job is only part of that? better to form my opinion of people for what they do rather than the traditional historical measures.
A persons actions are important, but so are personality and motivations. A job isn’t “what someone does because that’s who they are as a person”, it’s the thing that they do because they need to pay their bills. It’s one thing that you know for sure that they have ulterior motives for - money.
I respect people for how they act towards me and others. Are they generous, or selfish? Do they admit when they’re wrong, or do they double down on it? When they have power over others, are they cruel, or are they kind?
This is way more important than what job someone has. Often, what job someone has only gives you a guesstimate as to how wealthy their parents were, and little beyond that.
Disagree, I think that the way someone decides to spend their time says a lot about them. Sometimes you just need to work for money, I get that, but often times people just do whatever they fell into because they’re too lazy to chase their dreams or do something actually beneficial for society
Dogshit take tbh
Clearly touched a nerve
Yes, gaslighting idiocy tends to touch a nerve when people are trying to have a good faith discussion 🤷
I think I’m being pretty reasonable. If anything, I stated my opinion and I’m being attacked for it. I’m not trying to play victim, but all the feedback I’ve gotten from this comment is hostile
Because they need money to survive, and their parents can’t help them financially sp they cant get a degree in whatever field, even though every position in the field requires it?
I mention that sometimes this is the case and there’s nothing wrong with that. But you don’t necessarily need a degree to do meaningful work or to chase your dreams, just effort.
Assistant General Managers are even more serious so the sales people pick on them all the time.
Don’t you mean assistants TO the general manager? 😉
Assistant to the General Manager.
Oh god 100%.
This isn’t a matter of life or death, Nicole. This is a Disney Store in a mid-tier mall.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Being an unpaid mod of a community owned by a private company that makes money selling advertising to you based based on data they collect from you.
That’s insane who in their right mind would dedicate their time to that? And what kind of dogshit company would openly allow that to happen! Glad we’re not there is all I’ll say
I heard about that happening on some site. I read it in an article.
Those poor, starving children
I dig that pun
So being a Reddit moderator?
Work shouldn’t be the primary source of stress in our lives no matter what the job is.
Brb gonna go try to hack the NSA so I have something else to be stressed about
Chef. No I’m not calling you a special title and acting like this is the military and you are my commanding officer, we work at the Olive Garden.
Accounting and banking.
CEOs and high ranking business people, what they get to do is not work or work significantly less than a working class people therefore I have no respect for most of em
“Running a business is hard work, you wouldn’t believe the number of meetings-”
Oh yeah meetings where you and “experts” on maximizing profits talk about how many people you can get away with laying off this quarter and other meetings where you work out a deal to buy a competitor startup in order to immediately and intentionally run it into the fucking ground sounds really fucking essential to the world Allan
Small business owner here. Just to add to the other responses about the stress and responsibility as you move up that others mentioned here… I cover every one of my employees when they take vacation or sick leave. So I am often doing my job, plus another person’s. It’s not uncommon for me to work 12 hour days without breaks.
I don’t think OP was referring to small businesses (< 50 employees), but more like 1000+ employees.
I am not reffering to small business owners, but big corporate executives
The higher up you go the less work you do and the more stress you take on. You’re essentially trading your peace of mind for more money.
When you work a simple manual labor job you clock in and clock out and then go home and live your life. Work stays at the office.
When you’re an executive or a business owner you’re working 100% of the time. Something happens, you need to respond. Sometimes you need to make hard decisions where you’re fucked either way but you need to minimize damage.
You need to find solutions to problems and that keeps you up at night. Don’t have enough money for payroll next week? How you gonna do it? Not pay vendors this week? Take out another line of credit at ridiculous rates? Skip a payment on your rent? Equipment financing?
You have to do something- you stop paying your employees and the company falls apart very quickly. Could start a chain reaction of good people leaving, making the situation worse. The buck pretty much stops with you, you can’t pass off the problem to someone else.
It’s not easy to be in charge. Lot of blame rests on your shoulders if things go wrong.
Of course that doesn’t mean they deserve 10,000x the salary of a regular job. I think CEO pay should be capped to some multiple of regular employee pay. Whatever that scalar value should be 2, 5, or 10 I think is debatable. But it should be capped.
Am an executive… agree with you on all fronts
Moving from being a Product Owner, working on my own projects, to being a Product Manager who works with Product Owners on their projects/hands over projects to them, it is far more stressful. I end up being on the hook for everything, with an expectation that I know everything about a dozen projects, despite being far less actively involved in the underlying work of any of them.
Teaching. Everyone seems to think teachers are full of themselves until they become a teacher and become full of themselves themselves.
I love teaching, but the job of being a schoolteacher scares the heck out of me. Trying to earn the respect of 30 kids, while working from some standardized lesson plan, it sounds awful. I wouldn’t last a month.
Plus there’s the problem of having to relearn subjects to such a level of mastery that you can teach them effectively. Like 2nd grade math isn’t hard at all obviously but it’s really hard to synthesize and break down all material in a way that a developing mind can grasp it.
I took classes which would qualify me to be a teacher. The biggest thing that scared me out of it were the unions and the fact they’re not even legally questionable sometimes. I didn’t want to become that. In the United States, the occupation has so much control that the head of the teachers’ union is considered the most dangerous individual in the nation according to a poll/ranking. Not sure if anyone would be willing to accept that as context for my answer though.
Everyone should be in a union. I’m happy to hear teachers are successfully unionised in the US.
If you grew up here you probably wouldn’t be saying this. Unions at their conception were supposed to be collectives of people who made sure they weren’t mistreated, but today they’re groups who use their membership numbers to make sure they get their way as often as possible. You may have heard about police here being notorious for overstepping in certain matters. In cases where this is true, that’s with the unfortunate help of the police union, which practices a needlessly strong honor-based system of nepotism. Teachers here are the same way. If anyone in power even remotely brings up any proposed bill that works in favor of teachers, such as one that gives them less required work time or more pay, they will pressure it into materialization, and they will exploit anything and everything for their giant wolf pack, allegorically-speaking. With Lemmy having a strong anti-capitalist sentiment, it strikes me as counterintuitively argumentative that the same demographic would be so supportive of unions.
Giving support to a bill that benefits workers through collective organisation is precisely what unions are for. Why are you against people wanting a better work/life balance? Unionise and you can have one too.
Because that’s not what they end up being used for most of the time, people here most often see them be used to impose one’s group’s interests on others, and these interests often dictate the fate of one’s future in the job. The issue is so bad the occupation is stigmatized in less populated areas.
it’s one of the most important professions but okay tell me more about how mrs dunn was mean to you and you suck at fractions
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How is saying teachers are important virtue signalling?
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Read the OP title, it asks what job do people take too seriously. I answered. Anyone who ignores we did just fine without our current system of teachers for centuries is already doing exactly that, taking it too seriously. It has nothing to do with your strawman of me thinking a teacher was mean to me.
Go back to being an illiterate, muck raking peasant or die young in a workhouse then, I guess. Fucking hell.
People in all the past golden ages did just fine without having the teaching system we have currently.
You know who the “Golden Age” was golden for? The relatively few educated people.
And for general relative prosperity and trade.
And you somehow genuinely feel that the average person’s prosperity was, relatively, better in that period?
Working 7 days a week, morning to night, producing that prosperity and trade for the educated class in exchange for a pittance. Whilst eating your table scraps in the dark, you can hope you don’t die of a disease you have no idea how to prevent contracting.
High school students are raging psychopaths. Being a teacher there is a life of eternal psychic warfare. It warps you, body and mind.
Mine 😔
their own