• Pete Hahnloser
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    165 days ago

    TIL Trump somehow knows the word “ought.” Immediately stumbles with “into” though …

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      45 days ago

      It reads like written by AI: some standard keywords, key phrases, an overall sentiment, and a few out-of-style words that sneaked in.

      • Pete Hahnloser
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        45 days ago

        It’s weird to me that at some point since elementary school, “sneak” became a weak verb. We used “snuck” in such a case. “Snook” was also an option in other cases, but now it’s “all sneaked, all the time.”

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          35 days ago

          Hm, good point. I generally go on feeling, from an English as an Nth Language point of view… and my subjective feeling is that “snuck” has more of a “participle” meaning, while “sneaked” has more of a “past tense” meaning.

          According to AI Overview, there might also be some EN-US vs EN-GB at play:

          “Snuck” is an irregular past tense: It’s an alternative form that has gained widespread acceptance, especially in North American English.

          “Snuck” is sometimes considered nonstandard in British English: While it’s increasingly common in British English, it’s still often seen as nonstandard in formal writing.

          That would match the Wiktionary entry: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/sneaked

          • @[email protected]
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            34 days ago

            I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

            Specifically, (as a native English speaker) my gut is to do the same thing (participle vs. past-simple) with irregular verbs such as this (others being dealt, learnt, spelt, etc.).

            I couldn’t sworn I read something about that usage when I was a teenager but everything I look up regarding them, now, chalks them up to being just an EN-US and EN-GB difference but, otherwise, entirely equivalent.

            • Pete Hahnloser
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              24 days ago

              I have a strange idiolect. “Dealt” seems correct, but “learnt” and “spelt” do not. Neither would lead me to raise an eyebrow; I’d assume I’m interacting with a user of British English.

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                12 days ago

                To be fair (according to everything I’ve been able to find), you ought to be as, apparently, they’re more favored, over there. I dunno; I do suspect I picked it up from reading and The Wind in the Willows and The Once and Future King were favorites of mine, in childhood, so maybe that’s it.