• TachyonTele
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      10 days ago

      Every democrat and one republican voted agianst this bill.

      What else do you think they can do?

      • @[email protected]
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        2610 days ago

        Remove some Republicans from office via the 14th amendment.

        Lead protests. Not just parades but actual disruptive protests

        Back left wing candidates

        Use any and all procedural tricks to delay things.

        other stuff that moderators don’t like

        • @[email protected]
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          I don’t understand why literally every Democrat in the Senate didn’t line up to filibuster this bill. Booker’s performative filibuster was toothless. This could actually have done something to change public policy.

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              In my imagination there are increasingly desperate actions they could do to stop the bill from proceeding. Pull the fire alarm. Start a fire. Cover all the chairs with honey. I don’t know. I feel like if it looked like a portal to hell was about to open I would break a lot of norms and rules to stop it

              • @[email protected]
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                1010 days ago

                Apparently they’re not even allowed an open floor to talk, but Hakeem Jeffries at least took the opportunity for 08:44

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                  That’s the house, and only because it was a bill passed back to the house, after previous passage, to review senate revisions. Otherwise they would have been allowed to debate much more if this was the first time the house had the bill.

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                It’s not just your imagination. Think back to the last 8 years and how much horseshit has come out that “wasn’t law” but was allowed. That same thinking and action could easily be applied by the opposition, but it turns out the opposition is a wet paper towel.

                I’m not smart enough to steer this, but there has to be a group trying to put together a legitimate third party. Let’s talk about that. Anytime theres a fucking comical issue upfront, talk about that, and don’t relent.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 days ago

            i said this the other day and got downvoted to hell, in addition to people telling me “well they did filibuster it”

            • TachyonTele
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              Yes. Because it was filibustered for a day.

              “They did the thing i wanted but i said they didn’t and i don’t understand why people don’t agree with me”

              • @[email protected]
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                510 days ago

                Why did it only go on a day, why didnt it go longer? There are no rules stating they can’t.

                • TachyonTele
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                  You already know the reason, someone else already said why. I’m not going to get drawn into a circlejerk argument with you just because you refuse reality.

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                    We all knew it was going to get passed. But if they did it for two days… Donald be crying, because he can’t sign it on the 4th. That’s what I was hoping.

        • @[email protected]
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          810 days ago

          That stuff that moderators don’t like is about all we can do at this point. What legal recourse do we have? Voting? Lmao

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          Remove some Republicans from office via the 14th amendment.

          Yeah, perfectly reasonable expectation… Sometimes it feels like talking to children on this site I swear.

        • TachyonTele
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          410 days ago

          How does backing canisates do anything to stop a bill?

          What are “moderators” in government?

          • @[email protected]
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            510 days ago

            I meant more generally, so democrats can win elections and then win votes. It’s something they should have been doing for the past decade. Look at how the democratic party is treating Zohran for an example of how not to do it.

            • TachyonTele
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              210 days ago

              You fight the battle you’re in.

              And agian, what are government moderators?

              • @[email protected]
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                510 days ago

                And agian, what are government moderators?

                Oh, sorry. I meant the moderators of lemmy.world. If you say anything too spicy, your comment gets removed

    • peregrin5
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      10 days ago

      Maybe next time and everytime go out and vote blue so they have even a chance of doing something to stop it.

      Elections have consequences.

    • Rentlar
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      He got many non-budgetary provisions out from the Byrd rule, which is essentially enforcing the rules that allow the thin Republican majority to pass a budget.

      But the Republican Senate also made up an accounting magic trick to pretend that a several trillion dollar budget line item has no effect on the deficit. And pretended that this is now a rule because 51 senators think this is a good idea.

      Senate Democrats did virtually everything within the legislative process that they could on their own.

      House Leader Jeffries did at least delay the vote for 8 hours, 44 minutes to talk about the bill, and bring it to the afternoon news cycle instead of at 4am.