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    … this is awkward.

    Speaking of recent history can you remind me what party was in charge from 2000 to 2008? You know when those rights were increasing in society?

    Its fun to point out when people use fallacies like the ones you used here. A genetic fallacy and an ad hominem. It’s the sign of a weak orator. One who is unable to actually support their arguments.

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      Speaking of recent history can you remind me what party was in charge from 2000 to 2008? You know when those rights were increasing in society?

      Someone is playing apologia for the Bush Adminstration’s position on trans rights?

      Holy fucking shit. MLs really are just conservative bootlicks.

      Its fun to point out when people use fallacies like the ones you used here. A genetic fallacy and an ad hominem. It’s the sign of a weak orator. One who is unable to actually support their arguments.

      Lord.

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        Did you not say that trans rights in LGBT rights were awful in the 1990s?

        Is the Bush Administration later than the 1990s?

        Did you like not think about this? That is a very shallow interpretation bordering on irresponsible.

        I’m sorry did I respond to you or did you respond to me? Who wants to debate who?

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              @[email protected] already said everything that needs to be said. You’ve been thoroughly humiliated. I just want to let you know how well he’s convinced me, and how little you have. Reading this conversation was funny.

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                  It’s everyone else’s fault that your arguments aren’t persuasive. Right. Have you considered that you might be wrong and also bad at arguing?

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                    Judging from the votes I’d say we’re about equal.

                    Misreading the timing from that moron was a mistake.

                    However it doesn’t support pugs position that the Democrats are solely majorly responsible for rise and acceptance in lgbtq and other minorities.

                    That was not something to Democrats did and pug failed to provide Anything specific the Democrats did besides appoint a few of the Supreme Court Justices that were the ones that actually enhanced rights for lgbtq people.

                    Have you considered your comprehension skills need a lot of work and that maybe you misinterpreted the thread?

                    No somebody who would choose “Genius” as a username would have better comprehension skills then that.

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                    Changing a single word to better represent Pug’s argument even though it doesn’t change my response

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          Did you not say that trans rights in LGBT rights were awful in the 1990s?

          Me:

          Holy fucking shit, do you not remember what things were like in the 90s and 2000s?

          I understand that reading two whole words is a bit of a strain for you, but I promise that reading entire sentences will help your comprehension.

          I’m sorry did I respond to you or did you respond to me? Who wants to debate who?

          Do you… do you not realize who the OP is?

          Fuck’s sake.

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            I understand that reading two whole words is a bit of a strain for you

            I’m going back and forth with this guy right now. I posted a link to a bill for trans rights Democrats introduced during Biden’s presidency AFTER Dem’s lost the House in response to House Republicans attempting to pass anti-trans bills and this loser’s reply clearly indicated he didn’t read the contents of the bill, which were actually VERY minimal. Like, a few sentences and a date the bill was introduced.

            This person doesn’t read. They just complain and have no actual, viable solutions. They are useless. Actually, they are worse than useless. They are working in opposition to the best outcomes for our nation, especially in the short term over the next few elections.

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            You know you don’t need to respond to every comment and that not every comment is for the op.

            Okay so when did trans rights get better according to you? And why don’t you give me an example of the Democrats having a hand in that?

            Last I checked part of the reason trans rights got better is because the lgbtq community fought tooth and nail for every right they had. Not because the Democrats been benevolently bestowed upon them the rights they should have had in the first place.

            Stretching vague definitions to try and cover your argument. Well played.

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              You know you don’t need to respond to every comment and that not every comment is for the op.

              You responded to my post. Whether I needed to respond to you, you responded to me.

              Sorry if that’s too complex for you to parse.

              Last I checked part of the reason trans rights got better is because the lgbtq community fought tooth and nail for every right they had. Not because the Democrats been benevolently bestowed upon them the rights they should have had in the first place.

              The LGBT community fought tooth and nail. Guess what was the vehicle for moving trans-friendly legislature and executive action into law?

              PROTIP: It was not the Republican Party.

              Sorry that politics are so far beyond your comprehension?

              Stretching vague definitions to try and cover your argument. Well played.

              I’m sorry that you were incapable of reading two whole words??

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                I responded to the benefit of other people looking at your post. It’s attracting a lot of attention And I want to highlight the lack of action of the Democrats.

                I did not respond to you but to the overall post. Regardless I don’t really care about this point so I can concede it.

                The courts. Specifically the Roberts courts. Not the Democrats. Give the ACLU a bunch of credit but you’ll notice that’s not the Democrats.

                Protip: if you’re going to give the Democrats credit for it at least have something lined up to prove it.

                Forgive me, 🙏 I misinterpreted what you wrote as 1990s to 2000. I’m still confused as how the Democrats led the lgbtq+ revolution in the 2010s.

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                  The courts. Specifically the Roberts courts.

                  1. The Roberts Court was very fucking far from the only or even the biggest contributor to improved LGBT rights in the US

                  2. Who the ever-loving fuck do you think appointed the liberal justices who were instrumental to those rulings??

                  Forgive me, 🙏 I misinterpreted what you wrote as 1990s to 2000. I’m still confused as how the Democrats led the lgbtq+ revolution in the 2010s.

                  How is it confusing that the only major pro-LGBT party was a major vehicle for the improvement of LGBT rights???

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                    1. Who was the tiebreaker vote? not a Democrat
                    2. Those justices were not guaranteed to rule that way and it should not have required a supreme court action to ensure rights to gay marriage.

                    Okay so the Democrats managed to appoint a couple of Supreme Court Justices that brought the balance to 5-4. Not that it matters because they squandered that with the win of the Trump Administration.

                    You’re giving the Democrats far too much credit for rights at the LGBT community fought for themselves. So what did the Democrats accomplish, instead of just not prosecuting lgbtq people? Did they do anything to help enshrine the rights of lgbtq people because I remember that being a major problem for the Democrats was that they weren’t doing anything for for the lgbtq community.

                    It’s like when people give Henry Ford the credit for the 8-hour workday and not the unions that died fighting for that right.