Misreading the timing from that moron was a mistake.
However it doesn’t support pugs position that the Democrats are solely majorly responsible for rise and acceptance in lgbtq and other minorities.
That was not something to Democrats did and pug failed to provide Anything specific the Democrats did besides appoint a few of the Supreme Court Justices that were the ones that actually enhanced rights for lgbtq people.
Have you considered your comprehension skills need a lot of work and that maybe you misinterpreted the thread?
No somebody who would choose “Genius” as a username would have better comprehension skills then that.
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Changing a single word to better represent Pug’s argument even though it doesn’t change my response
Soley, not solely. it doesn’t matter because the Democrats didn’t do anything to really enhance the rights of lgbtq minorities and I’ll keep banging that drum.
You haven’t provided anything other than oh look they managed to appoint a few Supreme Court Justices. Not a guarantee of anything.
Face it the Democrats only support something once it’s popular enough that their power won’t be challenged so they never actually put themselves on the line.
It was actual lgbtq minorities that got those rights for themselves and frankly it’s incredibly insulting that you give the Democrats so much credit for something they did not do.
For making so much fun of my own comprehension your inability to actually answer anything is astounding.
Feel free to practice your literacy with some extremely basic reading. If you’re feeling exceptionally adventurous, you can even check the party affiliation of the politicians and legislatures involved in the passing of the bills and executive orders discussed!
But I understand that might be a bit too taxing.
Face it the Democrats only support something once it’s popular enough that their power won’t be challenged so they never actually put themselves on the line.
How the ever-loving fuck does this contradict what I said?
Holy fucking shit.
Do you… do you not understand how a democracy works??
You don’t have to answer that, by the way. It’s quite apparent.
Every single right listed there was given to the lgbtq community by a court.
Again did you not read the thing you posted? You can’t be sitting here making fun of my own comprehension if you didn’t read your own article which clearly stays that the rights gained by the lgbtq minorities and the 21st century was driven by activist lawyers and courts. That isn’t the Democrats 🤦
Here lets go over the timeline:
Gavin newsom in 2004 order California issue marriage certificates the same sex couples. This is clawed back later that year by the state supreme court.
Massachusetts in 2004 passed along allowing same-sex marriage after a state Supreme Court case gave same-sex couples that right. See Goodridge v. Dept. of Public Health
in 2004 a judge in Washington state ruled that a state cannot create laws against same-sex marriage
in 2014 the general attitude towards lgbtq minorities had shifted in the Supreme Court gave same-sex couples the ability to get married which was then codified in 2022.
I’ll get some credit that Gavin Newsome tried to help by forcing California to offer same-sex marriage certificates which their courts been promptly undid. That’s one guy who did something tokenery that did not stick and did not put any significant energy after that.
On August 12, 2004, the California Supreme Court voided all of the licenses that had been issued in February and March.
Do you understand that justices aren’t Representatives? Like that’s not the Democrats getting rights for people, that’s people fighting and spending their own money for to fight for their rights.
The reason we have these rights has nothing to do with the Democrats and everything to do with the people on the ground fighting for these rights and it’s insulting that you can continue to give Democrats the credit for doing nothing. It took the courts and most likely millions of dollars to give them these rights before the Democrats did anything
This is just the right to same-sex marriage. There are other major problems that lgbtq people face that Democrats are more than happy to get rid of. Did you not read the article I posted above about the Democrats wanting to sacrifice minority lgbtq and trans rights in order to win the next election?
It contradicts what you said because the Democrats didn’t fight for those rights and didn’t do anything to help enshrine those rights. They just didn’t get in the way of people trying to enshrine those rights. I’m sorry but that is not what I want from a party that’s supposed to represent the lgbtq minority in the United States.
It almost feels like you’re moving the goal post because you just want the Democrats to be partially responsible in any sort of capacity for ensuring the rights of lgbtq minorities when that’s just not the case. Would a Kamala Administration be dismantling lgbtq rights the way has Trump Administration is? Probably not. They just be stuck in a dire situation they’ve been before where the mainstream media continues to use them as a villain and the Republicans continue to use them as a punching bag where the Democrats offer nothing but token support.
I worry about your comprehension if that’s what you got from this thread
It’s everyone else’s fault that your arguments aren’t persuasive. Right. Have you considered that you might be wrong and also bad at arguing?
Judging from the votes I’d say we’re about equal.
Misreading the timing from that moron was a mistake.
However it doesn’t support pugs position that the Democrats are
solelymajorly responsible for rise and acceptance in lgbtq and other minorities.That was not something to Democrats did and pug failed to provide Anything specific the Democrats did besides appoint a few of the Supreme Court Justices that were the ones that actually enhanced rights for lgbtq people.
Have you considered your comprehension skills need a lot of work and that maybe you misinterpreted the thread?
No somebody who would choose “Genius” as a username would have better comprehension skills then that.
Edit:
Changing a single word to better represent Pug’s argument even though it doesn’t change my response
Strawman.
One this is pugs position. I’d be more than happy to pull quotes from my previous conversation with them.
Two explaining someone’s position in simple terms is not a “strawman” and is a complete misunderstanding of the fallacy.
You’re not doing your namesake a lot of Justice are you? 😅
About the same level of literacy you displayed when demonstrating an inability to read two (2) words at the end of a sentence.
Soley, not solely. it doesn’t matter because the Democrats didn’t do anything to really enhance the rights of lgbtq minorities and I’ll keep banging that drum.
You haven’t provided anything other than oh look they managed to appoint a few Supreme Court Justices. Not a guarantee of anything.
Face it the Democrats only support something once it’s popular enough that their power won’t be challenged so they never actually put themselves on the line.
It was actual lgbtq minorities that got those rights for themselves and frankly it’s incredibly insulting that you give the Democrats so much credit for something they did not do.
For making so much fun of my own comprehension your inability to actually answer anything is astounding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States#21st_century
Feel free to practice your literacy with some extremely basic reading. If you’re feeling exceptionally adventurous, you can even check the party affiliation of the politicians and legislatures involved in the passing of the bills and executive orders discussed!
But I understand that might be a bit too taxing.
How the ever-loving fuck does this contradict what I said?
Holy fucking shit.
Do you… do you not understand how a democracy works??
You don’t have to answer that, by the way. It’s quite apparent.
Every single right listed there was given to the lgbtq community by a court.
Again did you not read the thing you posted? You can’t be sitting here making fun of my own comprehension if you didn’t read your own article which clearly stays that the rights gained by the lgbtq minorities and the 21st century was driven by activist lawyers and courts. That isn’t the Democrats 🤦
Here lets go over the timeline:
I’ll get some credit that Gavin Newsome tried to help by forcing California to offer same-sex marriage certificates which their courts been promptly undid. That’s one guy who did something tokenery that did not stick and did not put any significant energy after that.
Do you understand that justices aren’t Representatives? Like that’s not the Democrats getting rights for people, that’s people fighting and spending their own money for to fight for their rights.
The reason we have these rights has nothing to do with the Democrats and everything to do with the people on the ground fighting for these rights and it’s insulting that you can continue to give Democrats the credit for doing nothing. It took the courts and most likely millions of dollars to give them these rights before the Democrats did anything
This is just the right to same-sex marriage. There are other major problems that lgbtq people face that Democrats are more than happy to get rid of. Did you not read the article I posted above about the Democrats wanting to sacrifice minority lgbtq and trans rights in order to win the next election?
It contradicts what you said because the Democrats didn’t fight for those rights and didn’t do anything to help enshrine those rights. They just didn’t get in the way of people trying to enshrine those rights. I’m sorry but that is not what I want from a party that’s supposed to represent the lgbtq minority in the United States.
It almost feels like you’re moving the goal post because you just want the Democrats to be partially responsible in any sort of capacity for ensuring the rights of lgbtq minorities when that’s just not the case. Would a Kamala Administration be dismantling lgbtq rights the way has Trump Administration is? Probably not. They just be stuck in a dire situation they’ve been before where the mainstream media continues to use them as a villain and the Republicans continue to use them as a punching bag where the Democrats offer nothing but token support.