Feel free to practice your literacy with some extremely basic reading. If you’re feeling exceptionally adventurous, you can even check the party affiliation of the politicians and legislatures involved in the passing of the bills and executive orders discussed!
But I understand that might be a bit too taxing.
Face it the Democrats only support something once it’s popular enough that their power won’t be challenged so they never actually put themselves on the line.
How the ever-loving fuck does this contradict what I said?
Holy fucking shit.
Do you… do you not understand how a democracy works??
You don’t have to answer that, by the way. It’s quite apparent.
Every single right listed there was given to the lgbtq community by a court.
Again did you not read the thing you posted? You can’t be sitting here making fun of my own comprehension if you didn’t read your own article which clearly stays that the rights gained by the lgbtq minorities and the 21st century was driven by activist lawyers and courts. That isn’t the Democrats 🤦
Here lets go over the timeline:
Gavin newsom in 2004 order California issue marriage certificates the same sex couples. This is clawed back later that year by the state supreme court.
Massachusetts in 2004 passed along allowing same-sex marriage after a state Supreme Court case gave same-sex couples that right. See Goodridge v. Dept. of Public Health
in 2004 a judge in Washington state ruled that a state cannot create laws against same-sex marriage
in 2014 the general attitude towards lgbtq minorities had shifted in the Supreme Court gave same-sex couples the ability to get married which was then codified in 2022.
I’ll get some credit that Gavin Newsome tried to help by forcing California to offer same-sex marriage certificates which their courts been promptly undid. That’s one guy who did something tokenery that did not stick and did not put any significant energy after that.
On August 12, 2004, the California Supreme Court voided all of the licenses that had been issued in February and March.
Do you understand that justices aren’t Representatives? Like that’s not the Democrats getting rights for people, that’s people fighting and spending their own money for to fight for their rights.
The reason we have these rights has nothing to do with the Democrats and everything to do with the people on the ground fighting for these rights and it’s insulting that you can continue to give Democrats the credit for doing nothing. It took the courts and most likely millions of dollars to give them these rights before the Democrats did anything
This is just the right to same-sex marriage. There are other major problems that lgbtq people face that Democrats are more than happy to get rid of. Did you not read the article I posted above about the Democrats wanting to sacrifice minority lgbtq and trans rights in order to win the next election?
It contradicts what you said because the Democrats didn’t fight for those rights and didn’t do anything to help enshrine those rights. They just didn’t get in the way of people trying to enshrine those rights. I’m sorry but that is not what I want from a party that’s supposed to represent the lgbtq minority in the United States.
It almost feels like you’re moving the goal post because you just want the Democrats to be partially responsible in any sort of capacity for ensuring the rights of lgbtq minorities when that’s just not the case. Would a Kamala Administration be dismantling lgbtq rights the way has Trump Administration is? Probably not. They just be stuck in a dire situation they’ve been before where the mainstream media continues to use them as a villain and the Republicans continue to use them as a punching bag where the Democrats offer nothing but token support.
Lol I literally wrote out timeline so I could cover key events from the wiki link.
You were making fun of my comprehension but you couldn’t even bother to read my comment.
Everyone here can see how you are intellectually dishonest. For me it’s actually a great way to end this thread. You’ve exposed your epistemology wonderfully here.
Ah so you can’t handle any pushback to any of your points. It’s no wonder you’re famous around here.
You can’t make fun of my own comprehensive skill when you are the one that clearly didn’t read my last post and made yourself look like a total fool. I admitted I made a mistake but seems to me you’re doubling down.
Which one of us is showing minimal level of literacy? Certainly not the person that didn’t read their own Wiki post and fail to respond to any counterpoint.
You can’t make fun of my own comprehensive skill when you are the one that clearly didn’t read my last post and made yourself look like a total fool.
I read the post. I just found it so utterly detached from what was actually written in the wiki article, including some truly bizarre play about how the courts were the ones who TRULY gave LGBT folk rights while also dismissing pro-LGBT executive and legislative action as meaningless, because… it was struck down by the courts.
If that’s your peak level of literacy, there’s really no reason to play stupid games with you. I have no need of stupid prizes.
Which one of us is showing minimal level of literacy? Certainly not the person that didn’t read their own Wiki post and fail to respond to any counterpoint.
Yeah it’s definitely the person that always accuses the other one of the minimal lack of comprehension literacy that’s the strongest orator in the thread.
Definitely not the sign of a weak debater with a person that can’t support their own points.
Look I get that you don’t actually have a response which is why you just keep trying to dismiss my counterpoints of “well when people fight in the courts” it’s not the Democrats doing anything. And you still haven’t pointed to any legislation or executive actions besides hand waving at a Wikipedia article that didn’t support your point.
We all know that you can’t support your point it’s okay to just stop arguing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States#21st_century
Feel free to practice your literacy with some extremely basic reading. If you’re feeling exceptionally adventurous, you can even check the party affiliation of the politicians and legislatures involved in the passing of the bills and executive orders discussed!
But I understand that might be a bit too taxing.
How the ever-loving fuck does this contradict what I said?
Holy fucking shit.
Do you… do you not understand how a democracy works??
You don’t have to answer that, by the way. It’s quite apparent.
Every single right listed there was given to the lgbtq community by a court.
Again did you not read the thing you posted? You can’t be sitting here making fun of my own comprehension if you didn’t read your own article which clearly stays that the rights gained by the lgbtq minorities and the 21st century was driven by activist lawyers and courts. That isn’t the Democrats 🤦
Here lets go over the timeline:
I’ll get some credit that Gavin Newsome tried to help by forcing California to offer same-sex marriage certificates which their courts been promptly undid. That’s one guy who did something tokenery that did not stick and did not put any significant energy after that.
Do you understand that justices aren’t Representatives? Like that’s not the Democrats getting rights for people, that’s people fighting and spending their own money for to fight for their rights.
The reason we have these rights has nothing to do with the Democrats and everything to do with the people on the ground fighting for these rights and it’s insulting that you can continue to give Democrats the credit for doing nothing. It took the courts and most likely millions of dollars to give them these rights before the Democrats did anything
This is just the right to same-sex marriage. There are other major problems that lgbtq people face that Democrats are more than happy to get rid of. Did you not read the article I posted above about the Democrats wanting to sacrifice minority lgbtq and trans rights in order to win the next election?
It contradicts what you said because the Democrats didn’t fight for those rights and didn’t do anything to help enshrine those rights. They just didn’t get in the way of people trying to enshrine those rights. I’m sorry but that is not what I want from a party that’s supposed to represent the lgbtq minority in the United States.
It almost feels like you’re moving the goal post because you just want the Democrats to be partially responsible in any sort of capacity for ensuring the rights of lgbtq minorities when that’s just not the case. Would a Kamala Administration be dismantling lgbtq rights the way has Trump Administration is? Probably not. They just be stuck in a dire situation they’ve been before where the mainstream media continues to use them as a villain and the Republicans continue to use them as a punching bag where the Democrats offer nothing but token support.
So you either didn’t or couldn’t read the section of the wiki article. Great. We’re done here.
Lol I literally wrote out timeline so I could cover key events from the wiki link.
You were making fun of my comprehension but you couldn’t even bother to read my comment.
Everyone here can see how you are intellectually dishonest. For me it’s actually a great way to end this thread. You’ve exposed your epistemology wonderfully here.
Wherein you dismiss legislative and executive action, yes, even when the courts work against them.
Like I said. Minimal level of literacy.
Ah so you can’t handle any pushback to any of your points. It’s no wonder you’re famous around here.
You can’t make fun of my own comprehensive skill when you are the one that clearly didn’t read my last post and made yourself look like a total fool. I admitted I made a mistake but seems to me you’re doubling down.
Which one of us is showing minimal level of literacy? Certainly not the person that didn’t read their own Wiki post and fail to respond to any counterpoint.
I read the post. I just found it so utterly detached from what was actually written in the wiki article, including some truly bizarre play about how the courts were the ones who TRULY gave LGBT folk rights while also dismissing pro-LGBT executive and legislative action as meaningless, because… it was struck down by the courts.
If that’s your peak level of literacy, there’s really no reason to play stupid games with you. I have no need of stupid prizes.
Sorry that you really want me to play slop games with your complete inability to process information.
Yeah it’s definitely the person that always accuses the other one of the minimal lack of comprehension literacy that’s the strongest orator in the thread.
Definitely not the sign of a weak debater with a person that can’t support their own points.
Look I get that you don’t actually have a response which is why you just keep trying to dismiss my counterpoints of “well when people fight in the courts” it’s not the Democrats doing anything. And you still haven’t pointed to any legislation or executive actions besides hand waving at a Wikipedia article that didn’t support your point.
We all know that you can’t support your point it’s okay to just stop arguing.