Given the option, I prefer US spying over Chinese spying. Yes, the US, with all its shit, is still better than China since there still is (just a little) more transparent than China.
Having said that, why not neither? Can we please already start having open source hardware?
I think that Snowden (and other leakers) would argue that the US is much much less transparent. Though it is best to just assume that all major govs are spying on everyone (even if it makes an ass out of u and me). Though we can agree on open source hardware.
In a democracy most people get what they want most of the time. Do you honestly believe that people in the US want to go bankrupt every time they need healthcare?
A democracy is the people voting lol. You also get what you vote for, some people vote against themselves. Nice thing about China is the state knows best and you dont need to vote :)
This discussion started with the question “is it better to have a democracy or a dictatorship spy on you” but sure.
China is a communist country governed by one political party that allows only limited democratic activity.
Interesting quote from your link. I’f they adopt democracy and allow fair elections then it wouldn’t be a problem but maybe that’s too European for your liking
This was never about performance, I hope we get more competitive products.
Israel is a Western liberal democracy that doesn’t make it good; and Nvidia is helping it commit genocide. I would rather a Chinese company spy on me than an American or European company, more so if said company is complicit in genocide. What will the Chinese government do to me? Nothing.
European-style democracy (US and Israel included) is but one form of government, nations are allowed to choose alternative forms. Judging by the outcomes European-style democracy isn’t even the best form of government. Your intolerance of other forms and desire to enforce your own system on others even when your system is clearly broken and failing can only be explained by chauvinism and tacit racism.
Yeah! Only American based companies are allowed to spy on us!
Given the option, I prefer US spying over Chinese spying. Yes, the US, with all its shit, is still better than China since there still is (just a little) more transparent than China.
Having said that, why not neither? Can we please already start having open source hardware?
How would you know which is less transparent?
I think that Snowden (and other leakers) would argue that the US is much much less transparent. Though it is best to just assume that all major govs are spying on everyone (even if it makes an ass out of u and me). Though we can agree on open source hardware.
How is the US better?
White, Anglo-Saxon, Christian.
It’s theoretically a democracy, china isnt
In a democracy most people get what they want most of the time. Do you honestly believe that people in the US want to go bankrupt every time they need healthcare?
A democracy is the people voting lol. You also get what you vote for, some people vote against themselves. Nice thing about China is the state knows best and you dont need to vote :)
Confidently incorrect
People vote in China. Anyways, this is getting off topic. This Chinese GPU should be judged on technical merits, not based on the form of government or whether China adheres to European cultural and political norms. If that’s your only issue with it, then it is an admission that it is a competitive product.
This discussion started with the question “is it better to have a democracy or a dictatorship spy on you” but sure.
Interesting quote from your link. I’f they adopt democracy and allow fair elections then it wouldn’t be a problem but maybe that’s too European for your liking
This was never about performance, I hope we get more competitive products.
What happened to “A democracy is the people voting lol”? Those goal posts sailing away
Israel is a Western liberal democracy that doesn’t make it good; and Nvidia is helping it commit genocide. I would rather a Chinese company spy on me than an American or European company, more so if said company is complicit in genocide. What will the Chinese government do to me? Nothing.
European-style democracy (US and Israel included) is but one form of government, nations are allowed to choose alternative forms. Judging by the outcomes European-style democracy isn’t even the best form of government. Your intolerance of other forms and desire to enforce your own system on others even when your system is clearly broken and failing can only be explained by chauvinism and tacit racism.
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@CybranM
Well, they get what they deserve, not necessarily what they want. Americans need to get better at aligning their wants with their political behavior.
Lol
It literally is
Yeah, North Korea too