• PonyOfWar
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    505 days ago

    I really don’t get it. What makes this one radical organization from Australia seemingly have so much influence and power? Frustrating as hell seeing how people’s livelihood can just be taken away from one day to the next due to one organization’s puritan values.

      • Norah (pup/it/she)
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        75 days ago

        Deserves to be its own post honestly. Covers so many fallacies I’ve seen coming up often.

      • PonyOfWar
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        185 days ago

        But why do Visa/Mastercard give in to them? If it were governments, or even a very large popular movement I’d get it, as there might be consequences to ignoring those. But Collective Shout is really quite small, there would be no backlash to just ignoring them. I guess maybe they have powerful connections.

        • Lime Buzz (fae/she)
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          145 days ago

          Either Mastercard and Visa already agreed with them and just needed to be pointed in the right direction and needed an excuse OR direct action actually works by being persistent and annoying enough.

        • etherphon
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          34 days ago

          They already have a lot of rules in place about what their cards can be used for, I’m actually surprised they didn’t do this themselves.

    • Kichae
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      145 days ago

      Didn’t spend all of their time arguing about idological purity online and actually pushed to achieve their agenda.