Several people in the community have expressed frustration in regards to the fact that any post that fits the community it’s posted to but is slightly out of the normal post type like, for example, being more hardcore rather than softcore, get’s a lot of downvotes by people who simply don’t like that particular post.
We have also had complaints that particular types of posts as a whole get more downvotes even if they are in the appropriate community and are the normal type of post for a community. This especially appears to be happening to male content.
Additionally we are seeing posts with more downvotes than a community has subscribers, meaning people are downvoting content they don’t even want to see in the first place.
We understand some may not like some content of a particular post or community, but downvoting posts discourages these posters who are actually passionate/interested in the topic of the community from posting again. Additionally, when posts are downvoted like that it can bury them in our instance and especially in other instances, preventing them from being viewed by others almost at all.
After some discussion amongst the moderators and admins,because of the reasons above, we’ve decided to disable downvotes at least for the time being.
What do I do if I dislike a post?
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We recommend those who would normally downvote a post they don’t like just, instead, block the user who created the post, or, if the community is a topic you dislike, block the community. That way, you no longer see those posts, but don’t effect those posts’ visibility to other members of the community and instance.
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Additionally, you can view your “Subscribed” feed instead of “Local” so that you only see posts from the communities you are subscribed to.
What do I do if a post doesn’t fit the community it’s posted in or is spam?
- Please report the post, either the mods of the community or an instance admin will remove the post if necessary, as soon as possible. We have admins and mods online almost around the clock, so these types of posts should be removed quickly.
Potential future post filtering on lemmy:
- In the future it appears that lemmy may implement a tagging system similar to flairs on reddit. This request has piqued the interest of the lemmy devs, so keep an eye out sometime in the (maybe not so near) future for the implementation of that feature.
As @[email protected] has said in the comments:
Downvotes should be used for posts you don’t like in your area of interest, and not for niche communities you don’t like.
When the RFC mentioned in the post is developed, we will be able to have a more refined home page, this way we can enable downvotes.
But for now, please block users/communities as it supposed to be.
Please put any comments questions and concerns in the comments below, we are of course always open to community thoughts and feedback, and want to work with you to keep this instance an enjoyable and entertaining place to post and browse.
Just a reminder that it is ok to propose different solutions and also disapproval of the change here, we know this is not a perfect solution.
I don’t think recommending blocking users is a good idea. It could have effect of creating “holes” if a user posts in multiple communities. It seems best to block the community to remove the majority of content you aren’t into. That way you still see a users posts in a community that you do like.
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Fair point
Thank you for this. I found it really discouraging to spend hours making something only for it to be downvoted immediately. I hope this will encourage more active participation now.
Yeah I think “I don’t like this” shouldn’t mean a downvote if it belongs in the community. If you don’t like cocks for example, then don’t view c/cocks. Block it or just not subscribe to it.
Just when I think all cocks have been blocked someone creates a new cock-mmunity that’s even stranger. lol
Sometimes, a NSFW post that fits the community description perfectly is just low brow trash, lacks any kind of creativity, or is a picture so poorly taken it deserves a down vote. It’s not just people being petty, it often is, but not always. How does a community police itself if the only means we have are to report to a mod?
As someone who likes male content as much as female content, I support this change.
This is a great decision and I applaud the admins for listening to feedback.
Nothing worse than having your posts down voted especially by people who are submitting no posts of their own.
I don’t like your content. It is useles as nsfw on a nsfw server, cause it’s is not a nsfw, just some boring celebrities default photos promoting for them not to become forgoten. Do you think I’ll begin to think that your content is in the right place (server) just because you take voting down off? Shit in a wrong place is shit in a wrong place. Concurency of ideas, opinions, random content has to be free and it has to have all means of expressing those opinions and having a way to know opinions of others is esential tool.
At least I’m posting content on here. And contributing to building a community here.
What I’m not doing is spending 5 months downvoting everybody’s posts (and making 0 of my own) then making my first comment to complain about not being able to do that anymore.
And if you don’t like the content I post then you can block it.
Thank you!
And I support your ability to post here or anywhere, I encourage you to create the content no matter the opinions. If you see it to your liking or have a need (like in doing media compains) go for it. I just don’t like crippling of vote system.
P.S. and how the hell are you taking out of your ass the idea that I spent my time downvoting anything here. Lol :) Hey someone with a serveradmin power here, show him my votes stats – I don’t believe any if several downvotes where ever casted here (on nsfw server) by me, mostly only upvotes. Calm him down, I’ve mentioned his content only because he started to try atack personaly (blagh blagh you are downvoter, blagh blagh what ever have you given, etc…). I don’t realy care what he posts even if it’s not nsfw. :)
-1 toxic
I agree with you. Ignoring or silently downvoting would be much better than commenting, when you have nothing encouraging or constructive to add. ;)
If people like you who downvote what they dislike lost their privilege to downvote, like was the case in slashdot, then I would agree.
Slashdot voting system
https://beehaw.org/comment/208569
this was something I loved about slashdot moderation. When voting, people had to specify the reason for the vote. +1 funny, +1 insightful, +1 informative, -1 troll, -1 misleading, etc.
That way you can, for example, set in your user preferences to ignore positive votes for comedy, and put extra value on informative votes.
Then, to keep people from spamming up/down votes and to encourage them to think about their choices, they only gave out a limited number of moderation points to readers. So you’d have to choose which comments to spend your 5 points on.
Then finally, they had ‘meta moderation’ where you’d be shown a comment, and asked “would a vote of insightful be appropriate for this comment” to catch people who down-voted out of disagreement or personal vendetta. Any users who regularly mis-voted would stop receiving the ability to vote.
I don’t think this is directly applicable to a federated system, but I do think it’s one of the best-thought-out voting systems ever created for a discussion board.
edit: a couple other points i liked about it:
Comments were capped at (iirc) +5 and -1. Further votes wouldn’t change the comment’s score.
User karma wasn’t shown. The user page would just say Karma: good. Or Excellent, or poor, or some other vague term.
Thanks for the informative additional explanations.
Oh, but I don’t downvote that I don’t like. I usualy down vote only the misinformation and propaganda. And we don’t have such content on nsfw by definition. I just don’t like someone bossing around with taking out functionality and an option of freely expressing your opinion and taking away concurency of opinions in a vote system.
But there are people who do like them. Just block the community and you won’t see them anymore.
I’ve expressed my opinion about that his content is not enought nsfw to be be here (on lemmynsfw), but I don’t see a problem in him or his content beeing here. And I don’t see a point in blocking him or even voting his content down. I just want my tool to be able to express my opinion more silently if his content will begin to get in a way too much, e.g. downvoting some repeating post if becoming too spammy on a main flow of local posts. Sometimes down voting someone on particular anoying post silently is much much better then telling what you think laudly and in details or blocking poster, community or yourself out. I vote for self regulation in comunities.
Just try not to downvote at all, except when someone posts bullshit like hate.
In those cases, please use the Report to alert mods AND admins for ban actions.
Its always worth reminding about instance-wide rule 2
(Rule Two) Respect and Consent: Treat all members with respect and obtain consent when sharing explicit content involving others. No doxxing. No soliciting or sharing personal info. No homophobia, transphobia, body shaming, or kinkshaming. Don’t be an asshole.
Unfortunately I can’t see your guys posts except mod posts. Not sure what kind of NSFW you’re posting here
Sound like you need to enable nsfw posts in your app or in lemmy settings
I can see NSFW post from other NSFW communities, except yours
I tried it, and it did not work
It’s now over a week and it seems things generally have improved. A lot more different posters, but niche content and OC have not increased much yet. A lot more postings of popular redgifs links by non-OC reposters.
Just some unscientific observations - based on my own posts into small niche focused communities:
- more people seem to have switched to viewing own subscribed feed.
- not excessive amounts of upvotes, to be expected for small communities and small number of subscribers. I want my niche communities to be small and intimate of mostly interested/engaged subscribers, not just passersbys.
- some haters seem to have started abandoning LemmyNSFW (or blocked me/my comms which is totally good, as that’s the way its supposed to work for stuff one has no interest in seeing)
I ran a forum with 30k active users before saying F that. One thing I learned during that adventure is that you can’t force people to behave the way you want. It doesn’t matter what you type, the up/down votes will mean exactly what the user wants. Trying to force conformity or censoring their contributions (down votes) will only end in frustration and lower user count.
tldr: Your team is behaving like it’s their first moderating experience.
Another opinion from someone with 0 posts and 0 comments on lemmynsfw
Trying to force conformity or censoring their contributions using down votes will only end in frustration and lower user count.
That is what has been happening the past 6 months on lemmynsfw. I’m very glad a change is being now to right this ship.
I mean the account is 5 months old… who cares how many comments and posts they have? Maybe they have the account to vote and mostly just lurk until now?
Unless you try making posts here you wouldn’t experience first hand why people don’t want downvotes. It’s easy to criticize without having perspective of people who are submitting content. There’s also some entitlement of people who want certain content who are doing nothing to get that content.
I get that but this whole thing is like forcing a safe space for people who put themselves out there and can’t tolerate whatever comes with it. They should ignore the downvotes or just disable them themselves
Or people can just block the communities they don’t want to see instead of down voting things that they don’t like
I’m with you there, that’s what I do. But ultimately you can’t dictate others experience or preference. If that’s how they want to use the platform and it isn’t breaking any laws, it is what it is.
Harden up buttercup. I’m on world so I don’t have to worry about changes to lemmynsfw voting, but I agree with the others that removing downvotes ignores that the viewer knows what the viewer wants to see. If a certain type of content is being outright rejected by the community who are you to force them to view it? Downvotes help tell us creators what is and isn’t working for the community and encourages us to lift our game.
Now go through my history and try that bullshit line:
Another opinion from someone with 0 posts and 0 comments on lemmynsfw
I just looked at your posts, how about creating content instead of reposting it. They have bots for what you do, go let one of them do it so you can stop being sad that no one likes Amy Schumer.
I find your use of name calling disrespectful and your tone condescending. If you want to have a conversation with me do so in a respectful way.
I find your use of name calling disrespectful and your tone condescending.
That’s rich. Coming from the person saying:
Another opinion from someone with 0 posts and 0 comments on lemmynsfw
Maybe take your own advice instead of being a condescending hypocrite.
If you want to have a conversation do so in a respectful way.
Me pointing that the feedback is coming from people who have no stake in getting their posts downvoted. Isn’t the same as your name calling, condensing behavior. It seems like you are lashing out at me more than trying to get your points across.
You refusing to acknowledge my point because you intentionally ignored the content of my post is a you problem.
If you don’t want to behave properly don’t cry when you get treated the same.
Me pointing that the feedback is coming from people who have no stake in getting their posts downvoted.
Just as you have no stake in your posts being downvoted because you didn’t create the content.
I’m refusing to acknowledge your points because of your uncalled for name calling. Until you apologize I have 0 interest in talking to you.
I modded a decent sized community on reddit for a while; not envious of the work involved. Also, F that. However, you’re absolutely correct. you can not do anything at all, as mods, about everyone having a slightly different idea of what that downvote button represents for them, internally. Not that the instance has even tried yet, but ok…
Because you don’t nlike something, that does not mean others want like it, the more you downvote, the more down it goes, so people who like the content won’t see it.
It’s a NSFW instance, people expect to see mainly NSFW, if you don’t like something, block the community that it came from, you don’t have to downvote every post , day after day. I learned the hard way, that SFW posts in the community that I made, are big NO, so I stopped posting SFW.
It’s a big community and people should be free to d upvote and downvote, but there are users who only downvote ! Which is not the only use of the downvote.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop! While I agree that downvoting can be problematic for smaller nicher communities, I’m not a fan of removing the downvote button. I think a better option would be to remind users (in a post like this) that they can block communities whose content they don’t want to see on their client
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I agree with you for the most part but the issue is with that is that because of size of this instance, pretty much all the communities here are about the size of niche reddit subs. That’s why I said for the time being. In the future we may re-enable downvotes once communities grow.
Additionally we mods and admins have expressed that we wish downvote disabling had more granularity, like limiting downvotes to those subscribed to a community or something like that so that those who are interested in something can shape their community, but unfortunately that doesn’t exist at this time.
I hope it works! Or, if it doesn’t, it gets reverted. I’ve noticed a downtick in content creation (especially non redgif content) from a couple months ago. Whatever will encourage more people posting content is probably best for this instance to grow. I think the useful feedback aspect of downvoting is really attractive, especially on a nsfw (ie porn) instance. The instance is so small that it’s easy to skim all posts uploaded in 24 hours in less than 10 minutes, so the idea that downvoting limits visibility of (relatively) small communities doesn’t seem too relevant to this instance to me. Thanks for all your great work!
get’s [sic] a lot of downvotes by people who simply don’t like that particular post.
That’s literally the point of the downvote system. To downvote posts you don’t like, or you feel are out of place.
Additionally we are seeing posts with more downvotes than a community has subscribers, meaning people are downvoting content they don’t even want to see in the first place.
This seems to be the real issue you’re trying to fight. It seems like only permitting downvotes on communities that the user has been a part of for greater than 1/2/7/30/pick-a-number days would be the proper solution. If people in a community are downvoting a post, then it means they don’t think that post is worth sharing. No admin, moderator, community owner, etc. should be able to change that.
I am strongly against removing downvotes.
get’s [sic] a lot of downvotes by people who simply don’t like that particular post.
That’s literally the point of the downvote system. To downvote posts you don’t like, or you feel are out of place.
Sorry, but I hard disagree with you on the “point” of the downvote system. A downvote, to me, is not the same as “liking” or “disliking” content. I only downvote content that is not correct for the sub, bad-faith, or troll content, and I would really urge others to do the same.
If you think of cause-and-effect, downvoting any time you dislike content is not a good system: Upvoting is the incentive to post that type of content, and downvoting is a disincentive to post that type of content. And Lemmy needs more content.
For example, I see Gonewild, every male poster getting downvoted to oblivion. But male nudity is not against the rules if properly labeled. As a straight male, I have no interest in seeing male nudity, so I don’t upvote it, and it’s not bad-faith or rule-breaking so I don’t downvote it. But it’s clear most people are downvoting it because they “dislike” it. But maybe there are some non-straight-male people in the sub who would appreciate it, and they don’t see it because it’s been buried. The eventual effect is that the community becomes more insular, with more unwritten rules.
Gonewild
Gonewild is a good example, if you don’t like male nudity, a more positive way would be to not downvote it but campaign to have a gonewildmale or something. Would make sense to have that so that the people who do like it can still watch it.
In that case it should definitely be up to the individual community.
I appreciate your verbalization of the issue at hand. I like to think of the vote system more along the lines of appropriateness upvote=appropriate/good, no vote=appropriate/neutral or not good, and downvote=inappropriate/broken/rule breaking.
Not interacting with a post has about as much of an effect on the non-chronological sorting as a downvote does so essentially you’re just going out of your way to make someone feel bad if it’s an appropriate fit for the community and you use it as an “Ew” button. This behavior becomes especially problematic when it comes to non-promotional OC.
It’s not perfect, but I think removing the downvotes for a brief stint will have a pretty good impact on training user behavior to help facilitate growth until this place is at a point where there is enough core functionality to allow for better solutions.
This is a Lemmy implementation problem - you need to vote to remove a post from your feed if you’re hiding seen posts. I’d much rather ignore posts that fit but aren’t for me, but there’s no other way to mark them read.
A workaround for you: upvote twice (ie upvote and remove the upvote) to get the post marked as read.
Ooh, thanks, I’ll try that!
I actually wasn’t aware that the mark as read implementation required voting to register as I’ve never had it enabled. That does change my perspective quite a bit of true. I can see that being okay for general news or tech content, but when you add sex, which is largely going to come down to personal preferences, to that it certainly creates problems. Honestly a lot of the problems people are talking about in this thread come down to implementation problems in the end, but we just need to do the best we can with what we have for the time being.
content that is not correct for the sub, bad-faith, or troll content.
IMO, those things are bad enough to warrant reporting them to mods for removal.
This kinda bs is why I hate anonymous forums.
On my reddit account I had 20 followers.
At least 5 of them followed me to downvote EVERYTHING I posted. I think one of them was on some kinda macro because within minutes of me posting I’d be downvoted. EVERY TIME
up and down votes should be weighted.
You’re a lurker who never up or downvotes? Finnaly see a post you upvote? That’s worth 1 per day you havn’t voted.
You downvote 100 posts a day? Each one of those is worth 0.01. Be a downer somewhere else.
It’s a tricky situation with the instancing. I just filter users/subs I don’t like, but with the global down votes idk. Everyone has a right to be seen, but at the same time you wanna filter the bots/spam/promotion etc.
Good luck, and hail boobies.
I just want to say that I think the admin here is awesome. You seem to really want to accommodate both users and posters. I decided to no longer post here because many of the users are negative. The downvotes felt awful even though I have a thick skin. That’s great they are disabled, but there are also negative comments. I have a thick skin, but I get treated better on other social media. There are great users here, but the trolls are too prominent for me. It seems like many users have high expectations yet don’t want “pros”. The stock images look like sex dolls. Idk. I just want to be treated well. Thanks for the users that supported me. There are awesome people here.
We all love you. Don’t believe anyone who tells you otherwise.
I am usually just an upvoter and do not engage in any other way. I know that a lot of people are like me.
Hi Annabelle, Wrt negative or harassing comments, you can report them for actioning by mods/admins. I am quick to ban trolls and toxic folks who don’t add value to communities, and I believe most mods would agree with me and do the same.
Its not anybody specific. Maybe just a general culture. Maybe ill change my mind after i get some space
As someone who also used to post OC and Mod on here, I can say looking back on things that the “general culture” I think you’re talking about is one wherein the community at large has allowed for the (mostly women) OC posters on here to feel unvalued/undervalued, or in some cases outright disrespected.
In terms of unvalued/undervalued, I mean that it comes as a real issue for any forum (or whatever) of this size to cover both the niche and general. I have since leaving here switched primarily to discord groups for the sort of OC posting I want to do, entirely because I have better interactions that way. For someone to see a pic of me they can’t just be browsing through /local. In those groups, I (and others) are sought out and enjoyed rather than tossed in with a mix of professional pornstars, hentai, and everything else. And remember, OC posters aren’t just doing this because they would like the honor to be included in your special jerkoff session. We do it because we want to enjoy the experience as well. I honestly have no advice for fixing this other than time and size, though in reflection I’d like to apologize to the Admins here for potentially having made them feel same way. Y’all deserve better than you’ve been treated.
And as for the outright disrespect @b9999998 , Annabelle’s most recent post proves exactly what sort of shit is being let slide:
Don’t let the door hit you 👋👋👋
is the top comment on a post saying goodbye to the few likeable men on here when she decided it was time to move on. ANNABELLE BROKE NOT A SINGLE RULE and STILL, she is currently being allowed to be disrespected over a policy the Admins and Community agreed on: “Self-Promotion is only okay as long as the community you are posting in allows it, and you don’t spam it.”
Fuck y’alls absolutist need to say the first thing that comes to mind for once, and start thinking about how to develop a community that’s not entirely comprised of men with last weeks shit stuck to their balls. The silent rule #1 of any mixed gender group is “don’t bother the women (and queer folk) or they won’t come back”.
So riddle me this anyone: how the hell are you supposed to keep women around when users can criticize (physically), disrespect, belittle, harass, or mock the women who would like to be part of this community? If a new woman joins and sees those sort of comments directed towards a likeable woman who’s followed all the rules, do you think she’s going to want to become an OC poster on here?
And as for the outright disrespect @b9999998 , Annabelle’s most recent post proves exactly what sort of shit is being let slide:
As I said in my reply, this type of toxic trolling is what needs to be reported to admins (since the comment you referred to is in Annabelle’s own community, we mods on other communities can’t do much outside of our communities - but admins can take action via instance-wide rule 2
Of course, the disgusting part is that many other trolls up voted that comment, and I’m truly saddened by that.
I can say for myself that in any of the communities i mod (including at Reddit), a comment like that toward some OC poster like Annabelle in this context will be deleted and member banned from community when reported - caveat, it does require bringing stuff like this to mods and admins attention.
[Addition] @[email protected], I don’t know what your experiences were, but I hope you"ll share with admins some of your own specifics. Also, if you look at the sidebar/rules of https://old.reddit.com/r/ButterflyWings, and https://old.reddit.com/r/DangleAndJingle, you can see how I started those subs and the culture of zero tolerance for trolls and rude members, and have encouraged many OC posters to post in harassment-free communities for 4+ years now.
I appreciate Admin(s?) who stepped up to have those TOS violating comments removed, but it says something deeply wrong that those comments were able to stay up for 7 hours during the most busy part of the day without a single user reporting them. If this is SOP, the users here might need some prodding to get them to use the report. Sorry to say, but anyone who reads toxic comments directed at a woman they like and doesn’t report them, but instead chooses to write a nice comment, is the real issue. Though on the bright side, they are probably some of the most capable of improvement.
And while the initial responsibility is on her to manage the comments in her community, it can be tough to remove comments (especially when finances are involved) as women can be perceived as “too bitchy” or “can’t take criticism”, especially when someone is speaking about their person. Some form of a more robust system could be developed; maybe a few trusted volunteers who could offer Mod assistance on “self-communities”, an Admin assigned to overlook the biggest “self-communities” (she is after-all still your #2 post of today), or other system that can enable the community and admins to take action rather than the singular OC/Mod.
Sorry for dumping this on you Admins btw. I know there’s many things you’re working on to improve the whole experience here, but after having time to digest my experience here and seeing another woman go right as i’m coming back, I just thought I’d say something. Btw, removing downvotes will definitely help foster a better and more respectful community that keeps women and queer folk around. It’s actually why I decided to log back on, so count me as proof it’s working.
The truth is that mods and admins don’t have advanced monitoring tools yet like automod to detect certain behaviors and derogatory words/phrases and to filter. So yes, We do need help from the rest of the instance’s members to help identify/report unwanted behavior.
I don’t know who the admin is that removed the post you referenced, but IMO it would have sent a stronger message to ban that member (and ask questions later)
maybe a few trusted volunteers who could offer Mod assistance on “self-communities”, an Admin assigned to overlook the biggest “self-communities” …
Admins/mod teams definitely could use lots more trusted volunteers and help. Can we count on you to help/advise? 😊
It’s definitely not the culture but a loud (and jerk) minority. You may even meet someone obsessed with downvoting you, when you see someone like that just report them. It’s sad to see you going, but we need to stick together if we want this platform to get bigger.
The one side benefit of disabling downvotes is that this minority of trolls and haters have to be more overt in public view via their comments, and responsible members can help by reporting such to admins for instance-wide bans.
That makes sense.
Hey Annabelle, don’t leave yet.
I absolutly know what you are talking about. I also have had accounts on multiple platforms and agree with your assesment. Toxic and negative users all around. Whining about their "right’ to downvote. For starters, from this thread its pretty obvious who the downvoters are. So i blocked them all. Those are 5 or 6 six jerks less to deal with. Dont wanna support the creators, you know the one who actually get out their comfortzone and contribute, not gonna see my content. Negative comment, blocked too.
But i really wanna support this instance and help make it thrive. There are wonderfull people behind the screens, with good intentions. Dont give up yet, take a break sure but come back to check for progress on this issue.
Thanks @[email protected].
Question for you and admins here: Does blocking someone work here on LemmyNSFW work the same way now as on Reddit (i.e. they can’t see any your content posts). Previously on Reddit before they made the change, blocking was only one way, which didn’t work well.
Blocking is only one way here as well. If you block a user then their comments and posts will no longer appear for you. If there is a comment by the blocked user in a conversation it shows up as ‘There is no record of this comment’ the same as if it was removed by mod action or if it’s the end of the comment chain you just can’t expand it (At least on Jerboa). Blocked communities don’t show in your feed and won’t show up in a search if you try to manually go to it either.
Your own comments and posts will still show to the blocked user however.
Bummers - that what I thought… Reddit finally did something right when they made blocking both ways so that people you have blocked can’t see you.
I actually prefer the one-way ban personally, but I’m not a poster generally. I would imagine that the people who are enough of a problem to require the two-way ban would just ban-evade with another account anyway.
Nah if i block someone, they can fuck right off. It means i dont wanna engage anymore and i dont want them to have the opportunity to comment and ruin the vibe in my comment section either. Or follow me around and downvote everything im doing.
Its my effort, my content and i wanna be able to disinvite them fully. They can go spew their negative bullshit somewhere else.
I had a few who indeed made other accounts to come back and annoy me again. Blocked those accounts too. Wake a mole and all. They give up after a while. And a new post wont trigger them to start the harrasment again cause they cant seeeeee them.
Can you put a community on private here?
I’m not sure about private communities, but maybe someone else can chime in. I know you can disable comments and posts at the very least.
I understand where you’re coming from with your opinion and I don’t think it’s incorrect in any way, but I still personally disagree. A conversation requires two people and if you block off one end it’s no longer that. Just like you mention, they will tired eventually and move on. I’m not sure if Lemmy allows blocked users to comment on posts by users they’ve been blocked by actually though. I would hope not at least because that is a situation I absolutely do not think should be allowed.
Dammit :D
Well at least i dont have to look at their bs anymore.
Should be changed though. If i block someone, i dont want them stalking my profile
I absolutely fuckin hate this. It’s almost the equivalent of YouTube removing the dislike button.
I am leaving this account behind because of this change, which is incredibly frustrating to have to do, since I had many saved posts and I already had been blocking the communities I don’t like to see rather than downvoting their posts, so I have to redo all of this on a new instance.
Downvotes are an integral part of a voting system, and are especially critical in low population environments like this. I don’t care how many “likes” a post has, what matters is the up/down ratio. Now lemmynsfw has lost that.
I hope you’ll read through the post and rest of this thread about the reasonings and temporary nature of this change until we can technically implement a longer term reasonable solution (TBD) to properly reflect your statement
what matters is the up/down ratio
Do you have any suggestions?
and are especially critical in low population environments like this.
I would argue that downvotes are actually part of the reason why we have a low population environment in the first place. Downvotes are causing people who post to leave and not come back. There are certain categories of porn like MILF which I saw get downvoted and now that is completely absent on the website.