boring as fuck jokes, liberal cringe opinions, 9 bad takes out of 10, and more galore. Should hexbear really keep associating itself with Chapo, it really seems that hexbear has outgrown it in general.
edit: by associating i mean using things like chapotraphouse com or askchapo or chapochat. maybe we’ve grown beyond it, maybe its a neat part of site culture and a nod to its roots while not connected to the cringe stuff.
does anybody here still listen to the chapo podcast? i stopped like a year ago and I thought i was the only one left
Death to America
Only if the guest is interesting or if something really big happened in the news - otherwise they’re basically just rehashing twitter bits and dark souls lore.
I listen to them regularly on my commute.
I do still occasionally listen to the Matt-Shaped Hole Podcast
Podcast?
This website is now dedicated to the Guys podcast
Genuinely curious, what alternate universe version of the site have you been looking at? The chapotraphouse podcast is mentioned here in passing maybe once a week if that, sitewide
he says while posting on c/chapotraphouse
hmph rude
That really hasn’t had anything to do with the podcast since before this site even existed though. We’re not associated with the podcast we’re associated with the subreddit which had basically nothing to do with the podcast by the end
well still its got the name in it, still kinda associated with it
i was meaning more with this com, references to it, and such. you dont have to be confrontational about it booty.
What they talk about the most is Israel and they do a pretty good job of that. I never understood why people are so revolted by it other than Felix being gross. There’s basically no criticism you could make of their politics that you couldn’t make of Citations Needed, e.g. if you’re a Dengist you probably don’t like how they basically never remark on China, but I’ve heard remarks occasionally from CTH and none from CN
I seem to recall cn would ban you for asking about a China episode.
If it’s true, I support that approach
Why? China is covered in the most repulsive way in us media. Seems like the perfect topic for CN to cover
Because they have a perfectly fine position in the pipeline by promoting a framework for discrediting western media already; Dying in the hill of “China isn’t doing genocide” or whatever is a rhetorical tact that would turn many people away. Let other people, especially those who actually have some familiarity with China and its media, handle defending China more competently.
“What about Israel/Palestine, then?”
There are definitely some rabid zionists, but generally among their audience Palestine is already strongly supported, which cannot be said of China (by which I mean that it’s split, not negative). Virtually no one who is declaring them Hamas for their Israel coverage is that interested in what else they have to say anyway.
I mean they could do light push backs but instead its nothing. The China US media discourse is some of the most dangerous and insidious. To the point where it seems most usians will believe anything the state department will say about them. Most anarchists I know, say and believe the most vile things about China NK and Russia but are critical of most other media lines. Coincidentally, CN has almost nothing to say about the discourse regarding the 3.
That your friends are critical of most other media lines is most likely due to the culture of US media criticism that CN is trying to contribute to. It sounds to me more like an indication that someone else should pick up the torch and handle those issues specifically.
If they took on Russia, especially, they would most likely get banned from most platforms and have their patreon taken down before too long. You’ve seen that happen before with other programs. As the Cold War escalates, that will probably apply to China and NK too (actually it already sometimes happens with NK).
Just yesterday or the day before on lemmy, I saw one of our comrades link a bunch of sources in a comment, including episode 8 of Citations Needed. The response? Their interlocutor ignored basically everything except that Greenwald was on the show and, because Greenwald correctly denies that Russia successfully “attacked” the US via hacking in 2016, which they took as evidence that everything involved was a waste of time.
the pod is good
no
buy the book
Read Losurdo
Naw, I think it’s funny
CTH are libs, this is a lib site
I haven’t listened to them properly in like 4 years
Yeah tbh I’d support this. Having the chapo name still around is sort of nice for those of us who were on the subreddit, but I haven’t listened to the podcast in 4 years and so much of that “dirtbag left” moment has sort of imploded. The chapo guys are fine, but I’m thinking of the red scare girls becoming fascists, stupidpol becoming a reactionary cesspool, jimmy dore becoming a reactionary, Bernie sanders dead (in spirit), cumtown refusing to move on from edgelord humor, sevendeadlyfetishes banned from the site. Maybe some of that stuff was never good, but it was a moment, and an important one, both politically since it put to rest that distinctly apolitical period that preceded it, and I’d guess personally for a lot of people on this site. But moments end and that moment has surely ended. We sort of tried to move away from it by changing the name to hexbear, but yeah I think it’s time we complete that process and make our identity wholly our own.
Counterpoint - if we change the name we can’t do the bit where people ask us what chapo trap house is and we reply "idk this is a
citations needed fan site.Agreed, this bit is too good to give up.
I probably listen more frequently than most, and I can’t say I’ve noticed any racist jokes, Can you think of a specific one?
The opinions haven’t changed much still mostly ok with smattering of bad takes but nothing outrageous that I haven’t seen expressed here, maybe more lowbrow since maths absence
Bit they still get decent guests, and for someone outside the US I appreciate the perspective on internal politics that isn’t too lib, although you can get all that elsewhere
My opinion on the matter is it does really matter anymore, but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, like what is there really beyond associations other than this sub name and older users like myself who may still use the chapo.chat domain
Can’t prove it but I think it’s probably a driver of new users since I see here mentioned on places like the blackwolffeed reddit
self crit it was pointed out that i kinda mixed up cumtown and chapo so my annoyance with chapo deflated and my point about the racism stuff was wrong. Sorry.
i can see your side, especially since it is a reference to its roots, and its already here so why change it.
conversely, maybe in order to improve the site, and get rid of the reddit-ness that is so often causing issues, its necessary to move the site culture away from those things. Probably overboard though.
Idk I’ve listened to like the last 100 episodes and I haven’t noticed any racist jokes. Maybe anti-semitic jokes from felix but even that’s a stretch
restating my self crit i mixed up chapo and cumtown so like half my hate is out the window
more that its mid cringe and we should like get rid of it
Very funny mixup lmao, they’ve been really struggling every since Matt had a stroke since he was the one that could apply theory, it’s all riffs without him but maybe he’ll come back and make it good again
It’s been over a year and he’s still having critical health problems
Wait, a podcast? I thought we were radicals appealing to a drug dealer for material support in order to wage a protracted people’s war.
frankly, I didn’t even know that ChapoTrapHouse was a podcast before I joined. I thought it was just the subreddit name
i dont know if thats a bit or not and that makes this comment even better
I joined the chapo subreddit not knowing about the podcast for months
unironically we should associate with
instead.i never listened to chapo, they seem like libs and idk why reddit bothered to ban liberals.
Are they really that much better? I will admit it’s actually worth a listen since it’s not like listening in on the most depressing video conference ever, it is an actually structured and informative show made by people I consider well-intentioned radlib idealists. I listen to it for the same reason I tune into Al Jazeera building credibility to attack the “totalitarian dictatorships” backing Hamas, or willingly subject myself to John Mearshimer’s screeds. They bring something to the fucking table.
Chapo was interesting a few years ago when they were clearly doing a lot of drugs and thought they were hot shit, but it was also wince inducing. There was also the potential of them becoming more widely relevant but instead they are just huffing duster wirh Chris Smalls and Tim Heidecker. Nobody should be surprised but at one point they did have this air of uncertain potential.
This community you have formed is very funny. On the one hand you have Mark Fisher pilled extreme idealists who have begun to bridge their way over to the critical theory posting (please stop, but not my life so I won’t stop you), on the other hand you have geopolitics watchers who have independently realized that Mearshimer is a knucklehead, thinks every country seeks HOI4 style world domination and that the US is controlled by its suzerainties (LOL) when they hold every single industry by the balls and provide all military intelligence and marching orders.
Those things would be more contradictory if people had worked things out without spending every single moment consuming or producing posts. This is almost four paragraphs about Chapo Trap House and r/ChapoTrapHouse so I will finish here adding, it is clear why this happened, you can talk about any facet of it for days.
