I can’t decide the best way to secure our front loading washing machine.

We have twins. They’re fascinated by the washing machine. Lights, beeps, action… everything. One twin getting inside and their erstwhile companion starting the cycle is absolutely possible.

Obviously we keep the laundry door closed but in a way you just build up the appeal. One of them has figured out how to open doors by standing on his trike.

I could put some kind of stick-on toddler lock on the door but I worry it would be tough to establish the habit of closing the door and putting that lock on. Besides which surely it’s nice to leave the door open to dry out between loads anyway?

The washing machine does have a toddler lock but that’s only to prevent someone changing the settings during a cycle, it doesn’t prevent starting a cycle.

My best idea thus far is a timer on the power outlet. So you turn on the power and set the timer to turn it off after however long the load takes.

The problem with this is that I haven’t been able to find a count-down style timer that allows you to set periods longer than 2 hours. Most power outlet timer thingies do schedules, not count-down.

I know this maybe sounds like an easily solvable problem - just turn the power off when it’s done - but that’s just not how things roll in our house.

  • @[email protected]
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    Baby gates. Baby gates everywhere.

    Also thats a weird toddler lock. Ours you have to push and hold a button to activate it and it wont run until you push and hold something else.

    • @[email protected]
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      319 days ago

      Great idea bolt the toddler to the wall with spare bike chains when the washing machine is in the house lol

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    Do you have any smart home stuff going on? If you had Home Assistant set up, I could imagine a trigger that turns off a smart outlet after 5 minutes of no use. (I use such a trigger to let me know when laundry is done)

    • @[email protected]OP
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      About 2 minutes after I posted i decided this is probably the best solution.

      I’m big into self hosting but have been resisting the urge to open the home automation box because I’ll never close it again.

      That said, it’s an obvious solution to this dilemma.

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        14 days ago

        Just wanted to thank you for this post - my daughter is only a few weeks old but I’ve been tinkering with home assistant during pregnancy and adding smart plugs to appliances seems like a great move when she gets more mobile

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        Yea, I don’t want any smart devices.

        My short term solution for some crucial monitoring needs has been Yolink products.

        I have their hub (without voice nonsense), a couple temp monitors (for a fridge and freezer), and a couple switches (really for power monitoring).

        I have their app on my phone with minimal permissions. You don’t need the app - the system will do SMS or email alerts.

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    719 days ago

    Internet-connected plug?

    It allows for custom auto-off timer, or you could just manually turn it off via an app on your phone.

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      319 days ago

      Plus it it has a button on the plug/switch for manual operation.

      The yolink brand is a decent compromise.

  • Malta Soron
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    319 days ago

    Can you remove their access to the room where the washing machine is? Mine is in the attic, behind a door and a stair gate, so they couldn’t even come close.

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    119 days ago

    They also have those storage/riser blocks that raise the washing machine/ dryer by 1.5ft or so. Check with the manufacturer. Those might be able to help push it out of arms reach. Not the only solution needed but could be an extra layer of defense, and saves your back!

    Also you say you keep the door closed, but just an fyi that the door is supposed to be able to air out after a load or you can get a nasty smell eventually and give off a musty smell to clothes.

    I know that’s a new problem but if you can somehow limit access to the room then that takes care of both issues.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      219 days ago

      There’s a dryer on top of the washing machine so we can’t really raise it.

      Also we keep the laundry door closed not the washing machine door.

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    Really, that hard to pull a plug when you’re done? This is a non-issue. The plug too far? Okay, get an extension cord.

    I know this maybe sounds like an easily solvable problem - just turn the power off when it’s done - but that’s just not how things roll in our house.

    Maybe try fixing your house where pulling a cord to keep toddlers safe takes priority over the inconvenience of pluging something back in.

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      719 days ago

      Or i could, you know… fix my house so a toddlers safety is not dependent on someone remembering to pull a cord?

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        219 days ago

        So what your telling me is that, if you have a candle lit, you would rather just put up a bunch of barriers around it so no one can touch it instead of blowing it out?

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          219 days ago

          I’m not sure. Is the candle like a mood lighting thing or a blackout thing? How dark is it without the candle? Are we doing something important or just hanging out? Is the candle scented?

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            Depends are the kids asleep? Or does the house just smell bad because I forgot to take out the garbage the night before? Hanging out can always lead to something important. you like the smell of vanilla or fresh strawberry field. Or are you into those wild nonsensical smells "calming ocean barnacle and diesel oil "

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    There are custom-made products for this. You don’t have to buy from them obviously, but search Amazon for baby proof washing machine. Should be under USD20.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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    619 days ago

    What brand are your machines? Because the child lockout function you mentioned absolutely should prevent a cycle from being started. That’s what it’s for.

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        119 days ago

        Unless your machines are a thousand years old, the control lock prevents activation of a cycle on all current and recent LG models. It locks all of the buttons on the panel except the control lock pad itself, which you have to press and hold for 3 seconds in order to unlock it again. Usually it’s the rightmost and lowermost button.

        It doesn’t lock the door, though. Rugrats will still be able to open it and climb inside, but they won’t be able to start it unless they read the manual first.

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          119 days ago

          LG says:

          The child lock feature disables control panel buttons and prevents children and others from changing cycle settings during a wash or dry cycle.

          This is indeed how it works on our machine.

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            219 days ago

            I’m going to ask you a stupid question, so don’t get mad at me: Have you tried it?

            Key words being “disables control panel buttons.” On my LG machine at home (WM4200HA) it will lock the panel regardless of whether a cycle is currently running or not. If you lock it when the machine is not already running it won’t let you start a new cycle. All you can do is power it on and off, and any of the other buttons just give you a sad beep and “CL” message.

            If somehow you can start a cycle with your control panel locked, record a video and call your lawyer. Because that’s lawsuit material, right there.

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              219 days ago

              Yes I’ve tried it. No it doesn’t work.

              It’s not intended to work that way.

              Machine is about 5 years old.

              LG WD12021D6

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                219 days ago

                Looks like a model released specifically for the Aussie market. You’re in Oz?

                Per the manual:

                Child Lock: Select this function on the control assembly to prevent tampering. “Child Lock” can be set only during the washing cycle.

                What a breathtakingly stupid design. I’m going to have to eat crow on this one; I have never seen such a thing before, and why the hell it would be devised this way is beyond me. All US and to my knowledge also Euro models allow you to lock the thing out when it’s off, for the express and obvious purpose of preventing toddlers from washing themselves (or your pets). This indeed seems like the sort of thing that would get somebody sued.

                In that case, back to your thought about a countdown timer plug. Something like this might work? If I’m interpreting the Engrish correctly, you can set it to some interval and it just shuts off after the specified time. It says it goes up to 10 hours – definitely more than 2. And not on a schedule.

                Plan C… Can you swap the doorknob on the laundry room door to one with a keyed lock on it? Or is it one of those sliding pocket door arrangements?

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                  319 days ago

                  Yeah.

                  I agree the child lock feature seems poorly considered.

                  I did read somewhere that in the future regulations might require better child locks, or more touches to start a cycle or something. Not helpful to us though.

                  The item you linked does actually look as though it’s the kind of timer I was looking for.

                  However, I think I’ve decided to get a smart plug that’s controlled by wifi that will allow me to configure it to just power off once the cycle is done. Tinkering with this sort of stuff will be fun for other uses anyway.

                  There’s also a specialised child lock someone suggested which I’ve linked elsewhere in this thread. It’s not perfect - it just adheres to the front of the machine and I’m certain that it wouldn’t stand up to even mild interest from a toddler, but it’s something I guess.

                  I could put a lock on the laundry door no problem, but my concern is that it will get left open sooner or later due to laziness or a guest or something. The locked door will just make that room more appealing IMO meaning that occasionally forgetting to lock the door is almost as risky as never closing the door.

                  I think the smart plug is the best shot at a “solution”.

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    Obviously we keep the laundry door closed but in a way you just build up the appeal. One of them has figured out how to open doors by standing on his trike.

    I could put some kind of stick-on toddler lock on the door but I worry it would be tough to establish the habit of closing the door and putting that lock on.

    Replace the doorknob with one that incorporates a “storeroom lockset.” It’s like the normal entry lockset like you’d have on your front door, but there’s no button on the inside: it can always be opened from the inside, but requires a key from the outside every time the door shuts.

    I use a storeroom lock to keep my kids out of my home networking closet. I’m thinking about putting one on the basement door, too.

    (It’s not weird/exotic/expensive BTW; it’s just more common in commercial buildings than residential ones. It should cost about the same as a normal entry-lockset doorknob.)

    See also: https://flyinglocksmiths.com/blog/the-five-lockset-functions/

    For bonus points, install a door closer (or just a tension spring) to make sure it latches shut every time you walk away.

    My best idea thus far is a timer on the power outlet. So you turn on the power and set the timer to turn it off after however long the load takes.

    The problem with this is that I haven’t been able to find a count-down style timer that allows you to set periods longer than 2 hours. Most power outlet timer thingies do schedules, not count-down.

    I know this maybe sounds like an easily solvable problem - just turn the power off when it’s done - but that’s just not how things roll in our house.

    You could get a “smart” plug and use Home Assistant to monitor the energy usage and shut the plug off after the washer stops drawing power, but unless you already have a smart home setup that’s super overkill.